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Windows 7: BOOTMGR missing!

20 Apr 2009   #41
TheBull

Windows 7 RTM 64bit, Windows 8 Pro 64bit
 
 

It is on the same drive, different partition.


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20 Apr 2009   #42
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi Bull,

Where is bootmgr and the yellow Boot folder ?

Does bcdedit say it's on C:?

Does the 1.46gb partition that we can't see inside say Active, by any chance?
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20 Apr 2009   #43
YupYup

Win 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Hi Bull,

Where is bootmgr and the yellow Boot folder ?

Does bcdedit say it's on C:?

Does the 1.46gb partition that we can't see inside say Active, by any chance?
Yes the first partition (1.46 gb toshiba recovery) is marked as active.
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20 Apr 2009   #44
TheBull

Windows 7 RTM 64bit, Windows 8 Pro 64bit
 
 

Hi SIW2, check my screenshots on page 3. thanks.
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20 Apr 2009   #45
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Thanks Bull,

I had already looked at those - bootmgr and boot folder aren't there. They must be on the hidden 1.46gb partition.

I haven't had one of Win 7's 100mb hidden system partitions, but ( if I remember correctly from other people's posts) - 7 regards that as part of itself and bcdedit declares bootmgr to be on C:

Seems something similar is going on here.

Yup Yup - have you had one of those 100mb partitions, - what do you think?

I would use a 3rd party app. to give that 1.46gb partition a drive letter - "S" is as good a choice as any. Then we can see inside it.

You could use the bootable partition app. attached to this tutorial to do that

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/16...-software.html
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20 Apr 2009   #46
Chappy

Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
 
 

I think the 1.46G part should be changed to the D: drive if possible (after we fix this), otherwise the XP recovery CD will not be able to access it later on if needed. The XP boot files shouldn't have been placed in there AFAIK, that recovery drive should be write-locked until physically unlocked.
Maybe we should forget about the current XP boot files and get some new ones going. The problem with XP that I found many times, is that it will see a different partition (1st NTFS partition on drive, many times it's NOT the wanted drive) as the C: drive and install the boot files in there. I've had it install on my Music drive, my Movie drive, my storage drive, until I started unplugging all other physical drives and hiding the other partitions on that last drive from the XP installer using Partition Magic, that was the only way I could get XP to install the boot files on the proper partition...no wonder they changed the bootloader style eh

Like Barrod stated, seems we need to get back to basics here.
Disable the Sandisk in Dev. Mgr if it's not plugged in and still shows anyway, let's get that out of the picture.
Now, I can't remember if EasyBCD allows you to hide partitions or not, so I'll have to do some research and get back on this, otherwise if you have a partition manager like PMagic or the like, I think we need to hide every partition except the XP one and then run the XP CD and repair the startup files, that should guarantee that they get installed on the proper drive this time ( I HATE XP's boot.ini system).
Then EasyBCD should have no trouble setting up the dual boot for you.

Lemme see what I can find, or if the other guys/gals here know if EasyBCD can hide parts or if they know of a safe free tool to do it, let's hope they post.
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20 Apr 2009   #47
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi Chappy,

The bootable partition manager attached here should be able to hide Drives.

Dual Boot using free partitioning software - Vista Forums

Just had a look at Easybcd - doesn't seem to do it.

Winbubble says it does

BOOTMGR missing!-winbubble2009-04-21_013128.jpg

WinBubble 1.76.zip

This is what it does:

*Hide ALL Fix Drives
*Hide a specific Drive

This feature will only hide the drive from being displayed. You can still access the drive by manually writing the path to the explorer's address bar, using command prompt and other applications.

Or use cmd prompt to remove the drive letters.


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20 Apr 2009   #48
YupYup

Win 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Thanks Bull,

I had already looked at those - bootmgr and boot folder aren't there. They must be on the hidden 1.46gb partition.

I haven't had one of Win 7's 100mb hidden system partitions, but ( if I remember correctly from other people's posts) - 7 regards that as part of itself and bcdedit declares bootmgr to be on C:

Seems something similar is going on here.

Yup Yup - have you had one of those 100mb partitions, - what do you think?

I would use a 3rd party app. to give that 1.46gb partition a drive letter - "S" is as good a choice as any. Then we can see inside it.

You could use the bootable partition app. attached to this tutorial to do that

Dual Boot using free partitioning software - Vista Forums
99% of the installs i do i make sure the hidden partition is not created, but on the ones it did create if i recall only contained the recovery environment and the boot manager was on C:. Knowing where the boot manager is would be helpful but not really needed, it is working correctly and boots windows 7 plus has the entries for XP pointing to the correct location of the NTLDR. Given all of this i would guess the reason XP does not boot is the info in the boot.ini is incorrect, or the extension is missing from the boot.ini (since we can not see it and don't know if bull has extensions for known file types showing or not).


Edit: Should be other way around hidden partition contains boot files c: contains recovery environment.
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20 Apr 2009   #49
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

If you cant find the bootmgr anywhere don't bother dinking around with downloads, boot in to 7, start, type 'diskmgmt.msc" <enter> right click the partition and Change Letter and Paths... Now you can get at those boot files with bcdedit to add XP.
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20 Apr 2009   #50
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi baarod,

He tried that already. It is one of those oem non-standard partitions that doesn't allow you to change it or even add a drive letter with Disk Management.

Might be able to assign a letter with Diskpart.
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