Installation Problems

hethoofd said:

Anyway, jackdelamare, you could try Windows Recovery Environment (boot from DVD). It lets you do a Startup Repair. If that doesn't work out then you could try FixBoot or FixMbr in the command console.

Yeah I'll try repairing again. Wow this sucks.

jackdelamare said:

Well I got the new disk and have tried to install Windows 7. Got to the copying files, and then went to restart as normal, but didn't boot. I tried again, with formatting where it installed to and then trying again and it did the same thing. I gave it a rest and then just booted into the hard drive... it said "Starting Windows" and had the copyright Microsoft at the bottom... then just came up with that "Windows Bootloader Error" and told me to repair.

Any ideas, this is pretty much what happened last time, minus the smily face icon things. This really is bugging me. I have no time now but tomorrow i'll "repair" using the install disk and then try, but is there anything else I could be doing wrong?

the mbr and boot fixes should work
if it does not work...

completely delete everything.....
including partitions....
i mean everything
unplug anything not needed for the install...
then redo the install...

if you get a good install the replug back everything...

Do you think I should download a whole new build? I've tried many times with 6801 and it just hasn't worked. It installs now, but just asks me to repair once I boot it. Sorry to ask, but could anybody PM me a you know what?

Jack - as I said 3 weeks ago and dark just said one post up - have you tried wiping the entire drive, removing all partitions, and then installing?

You don't need any other tool or OS to do this - this can be accomplished *right when you are installing* - make sure you select Custom, not Upgrade, and then when it presents you with a list of drives, click on Drive Options to the right - from there you can remove partitions, format drives, create partitions, etc....

johngalt said:

Jack - as I said 3 weeks ago and dark just said one post up - have you tried wiping the entire drive, removing all partitions, and then installing?

You don't need any other tool or OS to do this - this can be accomplished *right when you are installing* - make sure you select Custom, not Upgrade, and then when it presents you with a list of drives, click on Drive Options to the right - from there you can remove partitions, format drives, create partitions, etc....

I did this, formatted both the drives and tried again. So I should delete the small one which is around 200MB?

jackdelamare said:

I did this, formatted both the drives and tried again. So I should delete the small one which is around 200MB?

its up to you
i can confirm that it is the startup repair partition....
i had the same question...
there is a way to delete it on installtion time though....

when you choose to partition in the instalation it will say it will create two partitions....
click ok....

after that click on advanced options...
delete the big partition and and extend the 200 mb to cover the whole disk...

i did it and im fine...lol

although i dont recomend it (MS put it there for a reason)

in case you cant boot into safe mode (i love it...lol)
saves lot of time...lol

johngalt said:

Jack - as I said 3 weeks ago and dark just said one post up - have you tried wiping the entire drive, removing all partitions, and then installing?

You don't need any other tool or OS to do this - this can be accomplished *right when you are installing* - make sure you select Custom, not Upgrade, and then when it presents you with a list of drives, click on Drive Options to the right - from there you can remove partitions, format drives, create partitions, etc....

yeah i thought he didnt see it
yes as i have posted above you can can see how....

Umm, if you manually create a partition instead of choosing one large partition it does not create the 200....

Only if you create one large drive (and usually unpartitioned space) will is create the 200 MB and the rest.

At least, that is what my testing thus far has revealed.

Well I'll try reparing and deleted the 200 partition before installing and it should be created again. Then i'll go from there.
Thanks for the help so far.

johngalt said:

Umm, if you manually create a partition instead of choosing one large partition it does not create the 200....

Only if you create one large drive (and usually unpartitioned space) will is create the 200 MB and the rest.

At least, that is what my testing thus far has revealed.

ahh right his is already partion forgot that one...lol

but there is a good reason to have it and not delete it (as long its not mounted/seen....lol)

i love that they thought outside the main Windows OS...

jackdelamare said:

Well I'll try reparing and deleted the 200 partition before installing and it should be created again. Then i'll go from there.
Thanks for the help so far.

alright good luck..

Ok, I tried installing it tonight, but had more issues. First off, I had download a newer build, build 6956, but when it started to load the setup I noticed it said it was build 6801. Dissapointing, but I continued. So, I deleted the small 200MB partition, formatted the big one and then installed.

Did the installation, and I got the picture where it says "starting windows" without any scroll bar, in the following guide, then it came up with the boot error.
Windows 7 Installation Guide / Tutorial - PART 2 ( Installation) - Windows 7

So I re-booted from the CD and I clicked repair and it did not find anything, only mentioned to unplug everything, but the thing is, I did this. I unplugged all my USB devices and such, and it still failed. I also got a little electric shock from pulling one out... after that I turned the PC off before taking out any more... LOL. And I can still feel something weird in my arm, but anyway.

So yeah, still cannot install it. It sucks because I bought a new 320GB hard drive just for doing this . I've had bad luck, so I'm thinking virtual PC?