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Windows 7: Upgrade install to downgrade

19 Mar 2010   #11
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The disk would be for recovery not upgrade! And any branded disk is only usable on the machine it was provided with and tied to the recovery partition tucked away on the laptop's own hard drive.

For any retail disk bought separately that is flexible not being locked to one system. With the Ultimate preinstalled on the laptop you would have to swap laptop for desktop in order to see your family run that edition or buy a new Ultimate or even 7 Pro disk for them.

For the higher price however it hasn't been a bad investment here in any way! I ordered a retail HPremium disk as a holiday gift but will still need to buy a new Pro disk later since HP will simply be going on the present XP case seeing only Vista 32bit support and no support for virtualization. A new mini tower will see Pro there since the request for a "small" case easy to carry was the word! oh well.


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20 Mar 2010   #12
cclloyd9785

Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64
 
 

It says

Toshiba Windows 7 Upgrade DVD Home Premium Edition.

And i tested, and its not bootable, so it is an upgrade cd, but i can extract the wim from it and make it bootable.
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20 Mar 2010   #13
gregrocker

 

Why would Toshiba provide a Home Premium upgrade disk with a machine that came preinstalled with Win7 Ultimate?

Is it for another Vista computer you bought?

Is there a Product Key on the packaging?

What happens when you attempt to run it? Can you post back the contents? Seems we helped extract files from one of these awhile back to run clean install upgrade, but you'd need the key to activate.
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20 Mar 2010   #14
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

It sounds like you replaced the original preinstalled Windows with the Ultimate edition while it already came with the 7 HP upgrade disk included. The initial promos for selling remaining laptops with Vista preinstalled would be having a branded OEM upgrade disk included free with the purchase or shipped afterwards with the Anytime Upgrade offers.

If this is what happen where you bought the Ultimate disk separately nuke the C primary and go back to the original factory restoration of what was on and then proceed with the preactivate upgrade to see HP on. Toshiba set all that up for upgrade with their prepackaged wares. Later you can reduce some if not all of the branded extras.
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20 Mar 2010   #15
cclloyd9785

Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64
 
 

I bought it saying it came with Vista HP, but when i recieved it, it had 7 Ultimate, and it was sealed in the box.

Im guessing it was some kind of error.

And Ps, the contents look like an OEM upgrade disk... with an HTML of instructions to upgrade, and then both x32 and x64 verisions of the windows install DVD.

Final question.

Can I wipe my current HDD, and put ultimate with my current key, on a new computer.
Then with my blank HDD, install HP, with the key on the sticker on the back.
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20 Mar 2010   #16
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

For Vista HP you would simply restore the previous preinstall with the key on the sticker. If the Ultimate disk has it's own separate key that would be independent except if branded! If it requires the same key or can only be used on the original hardwares....? ouch!
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21 Mar 2010   #17
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cclloyd9785 View Post

Final question.

Can I wipe my current HDD, and put ultimate with my current key, on a new computer.
Then with my blank HDD, install HP, with the key on the sticker on the back.
If Ultimate was preinstalled on the computer then it is Factory OEM locked to the box which can only be reinstalled. Confirm the COA sticker on the machine says 7 Ulimate and has OEM in the PID.

If the "key on the sticker on the back" you refer to is on the back of the packaging containing the 7HP Upgrade disk, then you might be able to use it on another machine - worth a try.
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21 Mar 2010   #18
cclloyd9785

Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64
 
 

I dont know what they did, but the Ultimate Install worked and activated on the other machine. It might be because they are both Toshiba products so its like only 'semi locked'.

Now all I have left to do is see if HP will install on my computer.

PS: Is there any way to transfer all my programs to my computer once i do a fresh install of HP?
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21 Mar 2010   #19
gregrocker

 

You can try uninstalling the Product Key for Ultimate on your original computer by opening an elevated Command Prompt to type: slmgr -upk

Then do an in-place "downgrade" from Ultimate to Home Premium using the popular workaround here: http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/up...-rc-to-retail/

After "downgrade" try installing the HP Product key to see if it takes it.

If it doesn't work, then clean install since you were going to have to do that anyway. Back up your files before doing anything.
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21 Mar 2010   #20
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Have you tried with any retail disk? Remember just like that guide it refers to the 7 RCs not retail product when unlocking the list of editions.

The backup of all of your files and being prepared for a clean install of everything from scratch is what you would end up with. You can still use the Windows Easy Transfer but will need fresh installs most likely of all programs since you end up reformatting the C primary.
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