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Windows 7: Help with install & build

28 Mar 2010   #111
TJ1376

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Or try the Vista drivers if there are no Win7.
I moved the win 7 drivers to the USB stick and ran the install. Hit load drivers, then browsed for the USB drive. Windows comes back and says there are no drivers found.



I am currently using FDISK (god its been ages since I used this) to format the HDD in the new machine with a DOS system partition to see if it will boot. If it will boot, I would GUESS that we could rule out a Hardware problem and we can probably point the culprit at incompatible windows 7 drivers on the motherboard.

You guys agree?

I dont have a copy of XP laying around to install... What I would really like to do is install XP, upgrade the drivers on the MB, then wipe the drive and install Win 7. Does this sound like a good plan at this point?


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28 Mar 2010   #112
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

A lot of other members have read this thread trying to analyze it for us also. We have bounced some ideas about in some of our other threads & messages. It's just Crazy, but somewhere there is a solution.

For the time being, do you have any other windows OS that could be installed just to see if they would install ? win98, XP, Vista ? I just find it hard to believe that the 1.5 yr old Biostar board can't accept win7. This box I am on right now is an ECS MB from Oct 2006, Bios never updated. It has had every Beta build of win7 on it since summer of 2008 ! Never had to use a MB driver disc on it.

On your MB Cd are the drivers extracted into various files or are they .exe install programs ?

I hope some others will bounce some ideas in here, because this is a tough one
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28 Mar 2010   #113
gregrocker

 

You say you are formatting HD in "new machine." Is this another computer? It would be interesting to see if Win7 will install to that HD (or any other, for that matter) in another computer.

You don't need to do more than delete and format using the installer to start. See if it will install and run, then swap the HD back into problem machine to see if it will start up, swap drivers (requiring restarts) and run as has worked here many times with these tough cases.
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28 Mar 2010   #114
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Quote:
I bought the "For System Builders" version of Windows 7... No tech support available.

This was going to be easy... I am really bummed out that for whatever reason I am running into these difficulties.
This version needs to be installed using the system builder kit .... you've done that?
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28 Mar 2010   #115
TJ1376

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
On your MB Cd are the drivers extracted into various files or are they .exe install programs ?
.exe install files... everyone of them

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
For the time being, do you have any other windows OS that could be installed just to see if they would install ? win98, XP, Vista ? I just find it hard to believe that the 1.5 yr old Biostar board can't accept win7. This box I am on right now is an ECS MB from Oct 2006, Bios never updated. It has had every Beta build of win7 on it since summer of 2008 ! Never had to use a MB driver disc on it.
I installed DOS on a USB drive and booted off the USB drive. For the past 2 hours, I have been trying to install this version of DOS onto the HDD and boot successfully. I have been unable to.

I used a FDISK and FORMAT /s command to try and get that to work on the HDD. This does work successfully, but on reboot I get an error after POST is finished.

My last idea was to use Partition Wizard to copy the partition off the USB key to the HDD. I then used PW to verify that the partition was copied and the bootable files were on the HDD... Rebooted the machine and got the same error after POST finished.

What does it mean if I cant even get DOS to install and boot from the machine? Is it possible I got two bad HDD's (what are the chances of that?) OR, am I doing something wrong? FORMAT D: /S was the command I used. The USB is listed as C: when I boot from it.

I dont have another OS to install (besides DOS)... I am trying to find someone who has Vista (as it has a trial period). This may take several days, but I am more concerned at the fact that DOS wont boot from the HDD.

Does this add any more new clues?

Failed to boot count now: Win 7 x64 pro, Win 7 x32 home, Win 7 x64 Enterprise, DOS (from win 98 drivers)
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28 Mar 2010   #116
gregrocker

 

As stated, you need to extract your mobo drivers to USB stick or CD to have them be picked up by Win7 installer at Load Drivers link. An .exe file will not be read by installer.

Did you use the given standard methods to write ISO to flash stick?

Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool
USB Windows 7 Installation Key Drive - Create
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srOoGhm-jcI
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28 Mar 2010   #117
TJ1376

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You say you are formatting HD in "new machine." Is this another computer? It would be interesting to see if Win7 will install to that HD (or any other, for that matter) in another computer.
new machine = the machine I built (the problem child). I only have two machines, this laptop and the new one.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You don't need to do more than delete and format using the installer to start. See if it will install and run, then swap the HD back into problem machine to see if it will start up, swap drivers (requiring restarts) and run as has worked here many times with these tough cases.
I am going to see if I can talk our vendor into trying this for me. I have a good personal relationship with them, and it shouldn't take more than half hour 45 mins to install win 7 on my HDD (using their machine) to see if it will boot. Then I will take that HDD home and see if I can boot from it.

You guys seem to insist that I use a machine with the same # of cores. Is there anything else I need to be worried about? My machine is AMD.. the work machines will be Intel. Is that a problem?
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28 Mar 2010   #118
TJ1376

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
As stated, you need to extract your mobo drivers to USB stick or CD to have them be picked up by Win7 installer at Load Drivers link.


Did you use the given standard methods to write ISO to flash stick?
the mobo drivers are all setup.exe files... Win 7 gives an error saying it finds no signed drivers when I attempt to browse to the location of the drivers.

Yes, I used the Windows usb/dvd tool to format the usb drive and create the bootable image on the usb disk. Using the tools and procedures described in the FAQ on this board.
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28 Mar 2010   #119
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TJ1376 View Post
the mobo drivers are all setup.exe files... Win 7 gives an error saying it finds no signed drivers when I attempt to browse to the location of the drivers.

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Those setup files need to be extracted and then copied over to stick/CD to be detected and picked up by Installer. Note location they are extracted to.
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28 Mar 2010   #120
TJ1376

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
This version needs to be installed using the system builder kit .... you've done that?
Huh? I just pop in the DVD and it does the rest. It DOES install successfully... It just fails to boot afterwords.
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