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Windows 7: Real time to get Windows 7 functioning as XP install

18 Apr 2010   #71
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Again... let me clarify my postion... I am not suddenly against Win7 ... I still like it and would strongly perfer to use it... if it was stable. But I am not going to deny there are problems or try to struggle against incorrectable issues to the point of personal bankruptcy... I've got to get back to doing what I do and for now XP is the best way to do that.
I can certainly understand that!


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18 Apr 2010   #72
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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I don't know why they want to kill XP... but they do.
Simple reason - they want to make money (and lots of it) with Win7 after the dent in their revenue from Vista.
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18 Apr 2010   #73
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

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I don't know why they want to kill XP... but they do.
Simple reason - they want to make money (and lots of it) with Win7 after the dent in their revenue from Vista.
Well... that's pretty obvious.

But why not do it the smart way... Go back to XP and introduce paid upgrades such as Aero for XP, Speech Recognition etc.

Y'know what... I'd give them $50 for a version of Aero that would work on my XP system. What I won't do is give them any more money until I see a new Windows OS that is rock --and I do mean ROCK-- solid.
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18 Apr 2010   #74
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yeah, but who wants to work on this old stuff. And then the XP base is not up to the times. Just think of the security area.
It's like I would love to have the old VW Bug. But then the engine is outdated and uses too much gas and they cannot put an AC on it because of the rear engine design. Sometimes it is just better to move on and leave the old designs behind.
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18 Apr 2010   #75
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

whs, there's nothing in the world of programming that "can't be done". Everything can be done, it's just the amount of effort as the deciding factor... NT5.x series kernel is very scalable by it self. It can support up to 64 processors IIRC. The one of primary difference between NT6.x and NT5.x is how aggressive the scheduler do, and how aggressive the caching subsystem... Other than that, I don't see it...

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18 Apr 2010   #76
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
whs, there's nothing in the world of programming that "can't be done". Everything can be done, it's just the amount of effort as the deciding factor... NT5.x series kernel is very scalable by it self. It can support up to 64 processors IIRC. The one of primary difference between NT6.x and NT5.x is how aggressive the scheduler do, and how aggressive the caching subsystem... Other than that, I don't see it...

zzz2496
I know. I have been in operating systems development for 35 years. But certain efforts are just not practical or do not make the business case. I have started a lot of projects in my life that were technical marvels, but the business case just did not add up.
As a technician or a programmer one often does not understand why projects and good ideas are being killed. But once you get to the higher echelons in the development hierarchy, you get more insights and figure it out.
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18 Apr 2010   #77
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Yeah, but who wants to work on this old stuff. And then the XP base is not up to the times. Just think of the security area.
It's like I would love to have the old VW Bug. But then the engine is outdated and uses too much gas and they cannot put an AC on it because of the rear engine design. Sometimes it is just better to move on and leave the old designs behind.
Well... if my brand new ferrari was spending half it's time in the shop, I think I would eventually prefer that old VW Bug to having to hoof it 20 miles to work...

The decision is not new vs old... In my case it is Works vs Broken.
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18 Apr 2010   #78
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Yeah, but who wants to work on this old stuff. And then the XP base is not up to the times. Just think of the security area.
It's like I would love to have the old VW Bug. But then the engine is outdated and uses too much gas and they cannot put an AC on it because of the rear engine design. Sometimes it is just better to move on and leave the old designs behind.
Well... if my brand new ferrari was spending half it's time in the shop, I think I would eventually prefer that old VW Bug to having to hoof it 20 miles to work...

The decision is not new vs old... In my case it is Works vs Broken.
+1 Very well said
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18 Apr 2010   #79
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
whs, there's nothing in the world of programming that "can't be done". Everything can be done, it's just the amount of effort as the deciding factor... NT5.x series kernel is very scalable by it self. It can support up to 64 processors IIRC. The one of primary difference between NT6.x and NT5.x is how aggressive the scheduler do, and how aggressive the caching subsystem... Other than that, I don't see it...

zzz2496
I know. I have been in operating systems development for 35 years. But certain efforts are just not practical or do not make the business case. I have started a lot of projects in my life that were technical marvels, but the business case just did not add up.
As a technician or a programmer one often does not understand why projects and good ideas are being killed. But once you get to the higher echelons in the development hierarchy, you get more insights and figure it out.
Yep... because once you walk away from pounding code or connecting pins... it's all and only about money. Really... one has to wonder how many truly superior ideas have been trashcanned because the developer was unable to convince "management" of their value...

I used to manage a national service department, spent a long time watching stuff go stupid at management meetings... more than once products that would be an enormous benefit to customers were trashed because someone behind a big desk didn't personally like the guy with it in his hand... Stupid stupid decisions all over the place.
(and for quite a while they made money hand over fist...)
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18 Apr 2010   #80
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

You guys seem to have different experience than myself. I used Vista since day1 (Febr. 1, 2007) and Win7 since Beta. I never had a single BSOD and there was never anything that I wanted to do that could not get done. Granted, sometimes with workarounds, but that does not bother me.
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