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Windows 7: Want to make Win 7 System Partition DualBoot

01 Jun 2010   #11
SIW2

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Yes,

third party imaging backup apps. are better.

No need to pay for ghost, or anything else - there are some great free ones.

Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery Free Edition ...


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01 Jun 2010   #12
gregrocker

 

If WIndows 7 is on a logical partition, you cannot mark it Active to recover the MBR into it. The partition must be converted to Primary using free Partition Wizard bootable CD.

I should have asked you for a screenshot of your full Disk Management drive map and listings. Use the Snipping Tool in Start Menu, attach file using Paper Clip in Reply Box.

Then we can confirm the steps to make the drives independent booted via BIOS if that is what you still want.
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01 Jun 2010   #13
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Since the two drives each see a second partition you can take advantage of the Windows Easy Transfer tool to first make a backup of files and settings you can store on either secondary partition. From there you swap data cables between drives making the 7 HD into Drive #0 then being plugged into the first sata port and set that as the default hard drive.

The Vista HD would be seen as Drive #1 and second in line where once you performed a clean install of 7 the entry to boot into Vista would added in automatically or you can then use the EasyBCD program. By deleting the first primary on the 7 drive following the backup you then let the 7 drive tools create the 100mb system part at the beginning of the drive and proceed to restore the files and settings with the W.Easy Transfer option once a fcesh install of 7 was on.

Once everything was set you then use any method to create images of the new 7 install with that then being the default OS. When recently restoring an image made in december that brought everything back to that but saw no problems with restoration.

Note that prior to restoing one with any program make sure you first backup any new files added on since. Restoring an image will first wipe the drive clean as part of the process in order to unpack the image. The drawback found with Macrium's Reflect over the MS tool is that if anything changes like a drive letter or which drive you first toss a clean install on you may run into the "invalid system image" error.

The system image restored was actually in a folder that have been renamed where you simply browsed to it and still saw the restoration take place. Reflect can be fussy at times.
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01 Jun 2010   #14
gregrocker

 

You might also consider this command from SIW2 to image only Win7 partition. However the partition will need to have MBR recovered into it after reimaging to HD, and it will hold its current offset (disk position).

I still recommend the BIOS-managed Dual Boot method to solve the issue, and make your OS HD's independent at the same time. It works every time and avoids Windows-managed Dual Boot complications.
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01 Jun 2010   #15
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

With the latest EasyBCD builds you can have it both ways for adding Vista into the 7 bcd store once each drive is made bootable as stand alones. The MS page shows how to use the recovery console when booting live off of the 7 dvd in order to rebuild or actually build a new bcd store for the present 7 installation.

The other options would have been preferred when first planning out the dual boot with 7 being the newer version and still seeing each drive able to operate independently. With 5 satas and testing 7 along with Vista and XP last I had plenty of mbr and other things to plan out then!
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02 Jun 2010   #16
Oldroser

Vista Windows 7 each 64 bit Home Premium
 
 
My head is reeling

So much good advice, where do I start?

Well, greggrocker, your method leads me to what I was trying to do, so that is what I will be trying in a few days (I fell asleep last night in the middle of writing this.) I have used the sniping tool to attach a picture that should help everyone, such as:

  • Second hard drive Windows 7 is activated, what 100 mg partition before Windows 7? I don't have one, etc., and, hopefully, help you figure out and tell me why it made the 200 mg partition logical. I will be deleting it.
  • J is HP's Recovery, I temporarily changed it to J for some reason and now E has disappeared as an option for it to be named.
I haven't yet copied data from the Win7 data drive to the Vista data drive area. I plan to shrink it to make a partition to store the Windows image of Win 7 only, about how big should that be? It is, by the way, "belt and suspenders."

I have Macrium Reflect Free and have/will have images of Vista and Windows 7 on the data drive, which is copied to a similar drive on my other HDX18 whenever both are open and then to the external drive, which usual lives with the other HDX18. However, the last rescue disk doesn't work on these two HDX18's...and it used to! And of course I'd already thrown out the trash with the old one that worked. Yes, I added the two supplementary doohickeys which did zilch. One line mentioning Linux loads, then cursor sits at second line and nothing happens.

I assume when you talked about reinstalling Windows you mean in a worst case scenarios.

This is a laptop, I can switch the position of the hard drives, but if it will confuse Macrium perhaps it is best not to.


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02 Jun 2010   #17
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi Olroser,

Is that a new type of screenshot - the invisible type? LOL
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02 Jun 2010   #18
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The images here will show you how to upload and attach an image file like the snipping you took of the DM.


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02 Jun 2010   #19
gregrocker

 

I would delete that attempt at a System Partition and recover the MBR into Win7 while Vista is temporarily unplugged if you are able to unplug laptop HD ok.

Set Win7 as first HD to boot in BIOS setup, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD, click through to Recovery Tools list to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times with reboots until Win7 starts on its own.

Now plug Vista back in, set preferred HD as first HD to boot in BIOS, then if you want to trigger the other HD to boot use the key given on first bootup screen for one-time Boot Menu, which is normally ESC on an HP.

Now you can store your Win7 image in the D: partition on the other HD. If you've made your HP recovery disks, you might even want to delete Recov partition to extend D: Partition or Volume - Extend
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02 Jun 2010   #20
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Another thing is the system reserved partition is only 100mb in size and is created by the 7 installer itself to see that work out.
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