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Windows 7: Partition issues....HELP!!!

08 May 2009   #11
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi,

You may be able to use Express version from within 7 partition , but you would need to make it the System partition to do that.

Get the boot disc - it is attached to tutorial link:

Click the Blue link - near the top of the page

Dual Boot using free partitioning software - Vista Forums


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08 May 2009   #12
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The problem to start with is not having enough drive space to meet the minimum MS recommends being about 16gb. As soon as you went to install everything you ran out of space too fast. You will need to backup things from the Vista primary first and use GParted live in order to see the C Vista primary reduced while booted live from that rather then using any in Windows program.

Once the Vista primary is shrunk and you try to expand the 7 primary be prepared in case the resize sees 7 crash and made unbootable. The best move would be to first shrink the primary once files are removed to free up more space and then see a new larger primary created for 7!
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08 May 2009   #13
Davy7RC

Vista / 7 RC 7100/Virtual XP
 
 

So what kind of files can I get rid of, and how? I already eliminated the Recovery Partition for Vista cause I have the disks anyways. The way it looks to me the primary Vista partition already has a ton of space available (158GB used from 225GB)....or am I wrong??


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08 May 2009   #14
Snufffed

 

As per you post Win7 needs mininum or 12GB to - upgrade on the specific HD, your post shows only 7 GB and 500 mb free... it makes no difference how much C:\ has unless your going to clean install from C:\

Increase the FREE Space on D:\ to min 16GB. Then it will upgrade.
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08 May 2009   #15
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

You need to shrink the C partition first - there are system files in the way - you need to use one of the apps. you are downloading now.

It may take a while to do that .

You will then have ( depending how much you choose to shrink it by - you need to leave some breathing space on there) e.g.

C = 200gb
Unallocated Space=25gb
D=7gb or so.

Then you could either:

1. Simply boot the 7 dvd and reinstall.

During the installation, select Drive Options (advanced):

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Delete D - you now have 32gb unallocated.

Make one partition of 32gb from the unallocated space.

Install 7 onto that new 32gb partition.

OR:

2. Use the Copy function the on boot cd you downloaded to copy D partition into the 25gb unallocated space.

Delete D then extend the newly copied partition.

Make a bcd entry for it - so you get the boot selection menu ( Running startup repair from the 7 dvd should do that).

Clean Install Windows 7


Hope it helps


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08 May 2009   #16
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

GParted will easiy take care of shrinking the Vista primary down in size without worry of the unmovable files since no OS will be loaded at the time. The problem comes when trying to move the D primary 7 is on back to where the C primary is reduced to.

That's called a time factor and can take a few hours while not worth it. The easiest and best way to proceed since the 7 installation could easily be unusable would be simply seeing the Vista C primary shrunk, delete the existing 7gb 7 partition, and then create the new larger adequate size primary in order to see a good working installation of 7 go on.

Whenever going to dual boot with any two versions of Windows or other OS the first thing is planning out how much space will be needed to add a second OS with the first existing already in working order. You may end up wanting a bit more then a minimum 16gb once you start running 7 and start loading your regular programs on. 60-80gb at first would be an idea without shrinking the C primary too far.
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09 May 2009   #17
nate42nd

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Thanks for helping Davy7RC

SIW2 and Nighthawk

Sounds like very good advice.
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09 May 2009   #18
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The unmovable file being referred to by SIW2 earlier refer to certain hidden system files known to be present. There are a few arounds discussed in some blogs while still not a reliable means for seeing any Vista primary resized.

placing the drive on another system to use the Disk Management there would work while being more of a hassle then worth in the long run just to get past those. Once you boot from a live drive tool lilke GParted those are no longer a concern since you are partitioning out side of Windows.

Just remember not to shrink the C primary down to far since some of the drive space reserved is for the paging file used for virtual memory. And moving D into the empty space towards the front of the drive?

Let's say a fresh install on a new primary takes far less time like 20minutes over an hour to start. Otherwise you shouldn't run into any other problems.
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09 May 2009   #19
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all
Another one for GPARTED -- you can even COPY a partition to another area on disk just in case.

Get the Bootable ISO from here.

Works a treat -- and even if you don't know Linux it's a standard GUI so you won't have probs with it.

GParted -- Download

here's what it looks like after you've booted the live CD

Cheers
jimbo


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09 May 2009   #20
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I see another new one is out already being the 0.4.4.1 release! SourceForge.net: GParted: Files

The general documentation/instructions for use are seen at GPARTED DOCUMENTATION - GENERALITIES
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