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Windows 7: RC1 64bit Not Responding

21 May 2009   #31
djroberts

Windows 7, hopefully
 
 

Night Hawk, I'm not sure who's question your answering, did I miss something?


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21 May 2009   #32
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by djroberts View Post
Night Hawk, I'm not sure who's question your answering, did I miss something?
That was in regards to the problem brianS was mentioning there about not being able to get online in the 64bit RC. I went through enough of that even with the new ISP at first due to the low end modem they provided!
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22 May 2009   #33
brian5

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP-1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
That was in regards to the problem brianS was mentioning there about not being able to get online in the 64bit RC. I went through enough of that even with the new ISP at first due to the low end modem they provided!
Thanks for trying to help but I don't have any problems getting online. My problems are that a lot (all?) of my programs spend a lot of time in "Not Responding" state when they have disk i/o to do. Most eventually return but the operation (e.g. importing IE bookmarks) take excessively long times to complete. One of the worst offenders is Explorer (or whatever it's called now).

I have experimented with various BIOS settings there's nothing that I've found to resolve this yet.

I've just now upgraded to Win 7 Build 7127 so I need to see that if that is still behaving the same way.
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22 May 2009   #34
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

You may have some type of software conflict going on there with the resources being competed for. One idea off the top would be disabling a few startups to see if things improve.
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26 May 2009   #35
bum

Windows 7 RC
 
 

Are you using OCZ's wiper.exe? It causes problems for 64-bit systems. Do you have the latest firmware?

You really need to try a disk drive to narrow down the problem. The process of elimination never fails.
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26 May 2009   #36
cwiz

7 7100
 
 

I do have the exact same lagginess issue with various applications that goes "Not Responding" for a few seconds before coming back. 7100 x64.

Fresh install on :
Core i7 975
Asus Rampage II Gene (X58)
Radeon HD 4770
Intel SSD X-25M 80GB

I installed with AHCI "on" in BIOS. Problem happens right after boot up. I tried another motherboard (DX58SO) with the exact same result with AHCI on. I was running these exact setups with build 7077 (and older) before (again clean installs) and never had such an issue. No problem with Vista x64.

We all 3 have SSD + X58. One major difference between 7077 and 7100 that I saw is that there are Intel chipset drivers for X58 inside the 7 7100 build. This may be the issue. I tried installing 9.1.1.1012 on top of them but only 3 of them got updated. I'll try forcing a full install and see what happens. Did 7127 fix it for you brian5 ?
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26 May 2009   #37
brian5

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP-1
 
 

cwiz,

Upgraded to build 7127 but it made no difference at all.

What actually made an immediate difference for me was flashing the BIOS with a different version. I had recently flashed the latest AMI BIOS 1.50 on my X58 Platinum but decided to flash it with AMI BIOS 3.40 which is for X58 Platinum SLI motherboards. I am not (currently) doing any overclocking.

The "not responding" messages appear to have subsided. Things are still not 100% though.
1. I was running Media Player with nothing else running and I got a Win7 message that Aero was going to be turned off as I was running low on video resources. I have NVidia GeForce 9800 GT 512MB so I should not have got that.
2. I especially notice it on the Explorer window. I open a folder and the the "green" status bar at the top can run for minutes populating the folder -- I have no idea what it's doing. I have attached a picture below. My CPU utilization is 10 - 17%. That Explorer window is still functional -- I'm not getting the "not responding" any more on that.


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26 May 2009   #38
bum

Windows 7 RC
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cwiz View Post
I do have the exact same lagginess issue with various applications that goes "Not Responding" for a few seconds before coming back. 7100 x64.

Fresh install on :
Core i7 975
Asus Rampage II Gene (X58)
Radeon HD 4770
Intel SSD X-25M 80GB
Another MLC with a known problem:

Sector remap fragmentation slowing Intel X25-M SSDs - Ars Technica

Most SSDs currently available should be avoided!
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26 May 2009   #39
cwiz

7 7100
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bum View Post
Another MLC with a known problem
No it's not. The performance issue was fixed in a firmware update earlier this month : ¬ Intel¬ģ SATA SSD Firmware Update Tool

And the SSD doesn't exhibit any problem with 7 7077, Vista x64 or XP.

Edit : I flashed my BIOS to latest (was a month old) with no change. However I forced install of the Intel chipset driver (9.1.1.1012) by using the "-OVERALL" command line argument and I have yet to see Firefox go non responding. The provided X58 drivers may have been at fault here.
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26 May 2009   #40
anykey

Dual boot XP Pro and Seven/7127
 
 

Hello folks, I am going to pop in here coz I am getting the same Not Responding problem

My system is x32bit.

When 7000 came out I used it and loved it and had no problems like this.
When the RC1 came out I did a clean install and this Not Responding issue started.
I have since done another Clean install using 7127.
The Not Responding problem remains

To do any work I have to go back to XP Pro (I dual boot).
Surely with so many folk having trouble with Not Responding apps there is a solution.
Please help if you can.
Thanks,
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