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Windows 7: Triple boot XP, Vista, and Windows 7...

11 May 2009   #11
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

It would add the locale en-Us entry to the 7 entries in the Vista bcd.

When you select 7 from the boot menu, it will "fetch" the 7 bootscreen.

See here:

Triple boot XP, Vista, and Windows 7...-locale-2-2009-05-12_005431.jpg

Seven locale is missing from the Vista bcd. That command will put it in.

You will then get the Vista bootscreen when you boot Vista, and the 7 bootscreen when you boot 7.




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11 May 2009   #12
Cr00zng

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX El Capitan, Windows 10 (VMware)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
You will then get the Vista bootscreen when you boot Vista, and the 7 bootscreen when you boot 7.
Works as you said it would after running the suggested command, thanks for your help SIW...

Cr00zng
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11 May 2009   #13
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

You're welcome
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13 May 2009   #14
lynxxyarly

XP/vista x64 ultimate/windows 7 ultimate RTM
 
 

I'm having a similar issue myself. Basically, I'll run down my specifics of it:

I did not want windows 7 to touch my vista boot loader at all, so I went ahead and unplugged all my drives, save for the one I was intending to install windows 7 on (Note: its not the same drive as what vista is installed on). I installed it just fine and it boots up great.

So I hooked up the other drives and loaded up from my normal vista drive and the bootloader works fine as normal (obvioulsy not including the windows 7 boot). I then loaded up EasyBCD and attempted to add in a boot entry for windows 7 and then proceeded to assign it to the proper drive letter. Saved it all and rebooted. I tried to load up windows 7 from the boot menu and I get an error. It tells me that windows can not verify the digital signature for this file. So I attempt to press F8 to go to advanced options and shut off that digital signature enforcement for this session....but to my surprise it takes me back to the same error screen about how it cant do anything because of the driver signature enforcement.

I know I need to add the command "bcdedit -set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS" to the boot loader for the windows 7 section. I have it for the vista loader already. So my question is...how do I add this for windows 7, within vista?

If it helps...
Code:
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}
device                  partition=D:
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
default                 {80393741-3cf8-11de-89c7-e244ff43c983}
displayorder            {466f5a88-0af2-4f76-9038-095b170dc21c}
                        {80393741-3cf8-11de-89c7-e244ff43c983}
                        {e97dcf2f-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b}
                        {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b}
toolsdisplayorder       {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
timeout                 5

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {80393741-3cf8-11de-89c7-e244ff43c983}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Vista x64
locale                  en-US
loadoptions             DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
inherit                 {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
nointegritychecks       Yes
osdevice                partition=C:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {80393742-3cf8-11de-89c7-e244ff43c983}
nx                      OptIn

Real-mode Boot Sector
---------------------
identifier              {e97dcf2f-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b}
device                  partition=I:
path                    \NTLDR
description             Windows XP

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b}
device                  partition=J:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7 x64
osdevice                partition=J:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {2a5e2163-3f9e-11de-afc4-806e6f6e6963}
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13 May 2009   #15
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi,

For setting an entry for 7 in your Vista bcd. Boot into Vista and the command is:

bcdedit /set {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b} locale en-US

Where the guid relating to 7 is {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b}

and you want to add the locale setting ( you need that to get the 7 bootscreen).

To add or "set" anything else, replace the locale en-Us with what you want to set.

Why would you need Disable Integrity checks - shouldn't be necessary.

Is there any reason why you have NTLDR listed with the same GUID as 7 booloader?

I presume you have another partition with XP - can you boot into that OK from Vista?

I would have a look at the 7 drive from within Vista - navigate to it and attempt to open it and folders on it. It may say you do not have permission - click to get access. If so , click.

You might be better removing removing the NTLDR and 7 entries from bcd - use Easybcd to do that.

Then add the 7 entry to Vista bcd using the command prompt.

You might post a screenshot of disk management too , like this:

Triple boot XP, Vista, and Windows 7...-diskmanagement2009-02-04_031947.jpg

Hope it helps


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13 May 2009   #16
lynxxyarly

XP/vista x64 ultimate/windows 7 ultimate RTM
 
 

Thank you for the quick, prompt, and concise reply!

To answer your questions thus far, I know notice that xp does have the same GUID that windows 7 has. Previously (before I installed windows 7 on that drive) I had a dual boot up for vista and xp just fine with what I had set up.However, now XP does not boot at all. I must admit, that while I am an advanced computer user, I don't ever do much with messing with the bcd and such.

So, if I go off your recommendation, I can just rewrite the bcd via command prompt for windows 7...how would I go about doing all that and setting it up kosher? I assume it all starts out as: "bcdedit /set {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b} xxxx" -- where 'xxxx' will replace a command. What commands do I need for said bcd. Also, while I'm at it...I'll have to rewrite the bcd for XP now, since it appears that putting windows 7 on that same drive will take precedence without a bcdedit of some sort.

Also, as you requested..my disk management screen:


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13 May 2009   #17
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

lol at your pagefile partition.
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13 May 2009   #18
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi,

Is there a reason your D; Games partition is System?

Triple boot XP, Vista, and Windows 7...-dm2009-05-13_222635.jpg

I would make C: Vista into the System partition first.

To do that, go to Folder Options, make sure Hidden files and protected operating system files are showing.

Copy and paste bootmgr and the yellow Boot folder from D to C.

You will get a message saying can't copy bcd as it is in use - just skip it, copy the rest.

Open an elevated command prompt and type:

bcdedit /export D:\Boot\bcd C:\Boot\bcd

In Disk Management, mark C as active.

Also , have a look at which partition the XP bootfiles are on - ntldr and boot.ini.


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13 May 2009   #19
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

7 entries in Vista bcd will probably be fine as they are if you use Easybcd to remove the XP entry.

You may want to add these optional commands:

bcdedit /set {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b} nx OptIn

bcdedit /set {e97dcf31-3c88-11de-a8fa-00044b19257b} locale en-US
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13 May 2009   #20
lynxxyarly

XP/vista x64 ultimate/windows 7 ultimate RTM
 
 

There is no particular reason why my games partition is system...I would assume that it existed first because I always keep the "games' drive saved after every time I wipe my system. I have a wd raptor that I store just games and windows on. 2 partitions; 1 being windows/programs, and the other being all my games...so after I delete a windows partition to reinstall or whatnot, I would assume that the games drive becomes the new first partition. *shrug* I'll change it as you suggested, though. What benefit do I gain by changing this, by the by?

Thank you for the command line options to put in for windows 7, as well. I'll implement those asap. I will also remove the xp entry as instructed.

As far as where ntldr is located...I did a search and I came up with an ntldr located in two different places (see attached picture) I am assuming one of the ntldr is useless since it was last modified in 2004 (its on an old hard drive (slave I) however, the only other ntldr is listed as last modified in 2008 sometime. I know that I just installed xp like a week ago...so I don't know how that makes much sense. The other ntldr is located on my games drive (which is a partition of the same hard drive that vista was installed on. Subsequently, it was also existing when I threw xp on AFTER I already had vista on there). Boot.ini is also only located on the games drive. I know I need to move a few files like ntldr, ntdetect.com and uh..i think bootsect.bak however, I dont recall where I put them, nor do I recall how to then rebuild a boot loader for xp within vista.


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