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Windows 7: Reassigned Drive letters and System Reserve

08 Jul 2010   #41


Well it's Unallocated Space so it shouldn't show as Logical in your PW listings for 200mb.

I would boot back into PW CD, rightclick F again to Resize, then see if it will yield to let you include the 200mb into the F partition. If so, click Ok and Apply.

If not, try Resizing but move the 200mb to the right end of the HD as you seemed to think it would do, click OK, Apply.

Then try resizing into the Unalloc space at the right end of HD, OK, Apply.

If it won't do this, then restart Win7 and attempt to Extend the F partition into that space in Disk Management: Partition or Volume - Extend

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08 Jul 2010   #42

Windows 7 Ultimate

Hey gregrocker,
In PW on the bottom edge it showed boxes of different colors. The gray one was marked Unallocated. That is what the top edge of the System Area Partition changed to. I dunno.
Will try again and then I'm going to have to call a rain delay until tomorrow. Thanks kind Sir for your perserverence!
Will post whatever results I get when they are done. Take care
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08 Jul 2010   #43


This would be highly unusual for it to convert itself to Logical when it was Primary, and "Unallocated Space" is created from deleting a Primary Partition while "Free Space" is created deleting a Logical Extended partition.

But to advise you correctly at this point, we need to see a screenshot of Partition Wizard's drive map and listings, with the Resize PopUp box that is giving you problems included in the screenshot in an area where it doesn't block view of the drives or listings.

To do this you'll need to install Partition Wizard to Win7 from here: Free Download Magic Partition Manager Software €“ Partition Wizard Online

I will be online Friday from 11-12 PST and then again from around 7-midnight PST.
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08 Jul 2010   #44

Windows 7 Ultimate

I got my wind back and attempted to extend the volume. I'm not sure but under Disk Management the option was greyed out. I wasn't paying attention enough but I got to a display of the Drives and partitions. I clicked on the extend partition on the F drive space and the unallocated space was to it's left and the Wizard came up exactly as in the link and thread.
Partition or Volume - Extend

It was already showing Completing the Extend Volume Wizard and I hit next. At this time a prompt as shown below came up. It seems to state that the F will become unable to run programs from, if I understood it clearly so I hit no and it exited. I may be misinterpreting it, and if so is it o.k.? If not can you explain what this is and how to circumvent it?

Reassigned Drive letters and System Reserve-capture.png

Thanks for the help, I feel that a clarification will bring enough knowledge to choose yes. Does it mean that I won't be able to boot from an installed OS on the F drive.
If that is what it means it is ok because I only plan on installing OS's on the C drive.
Looking forward for your help and to put another issue to bed.

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08 Jul 2010   #45


Hi again Glen -

Disk Management cannot Extend a partition to the left. To use Disk Mgmt you'd have to first move the Unallocated space over to the right end of the HD using Partition Wizard CD if it won't Resize F into it. I believe you thought it might do that when you tried.

I am not sure how you got the Wizard that converts the Basic Disk to a Dynamic Disk which could destroy your data. This does not extend the partition.

The problem is that, if you are reading it correctly in PW, your 200mb partition somehow got converted to Logical when it was deleted. Neither of your Disk Mgmt screenshots have showed any partition or the deleted space to be Logical.

We can clear up this mystery by installing Partition Wizard to Win7, then posting up a screenshot of the full PW drive map with listings, along with the popup box to Resize your F partition. Make sure that Resize Wizard isn't blocking the drive map or listings.

There is no rush to do this so take as much time as you need. 100mb out of a 1tb data drive isn't really that important, except as a learning experience which is what we do here also.
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08 Jul 2010   #46

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Looking at your new screenshot, looks like you delete both System Reserved.

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08 Jul 2010   #47


theog I thought the same thing but then realized what we are seeing there is an open window screenshot from the Tutorial to Extend Volume which I linked him.

He must have run the Convert Basic to Dynamic wizard, tho, to have that warning message.

Waiting to see the Partition Wizard screenshot to see how the dead Primary SysReserved partition when deleted converted itself to Logical, but is still called "Unallocated" not "Free Space." Then we can get this done, or undone.

I believe he has gone to bed as he is on EST. He's had a full day, learned a lot today. There is no hurry on this now at all.
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08 Jul 2010   #48

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2

glennc, I get the impression that you are trying to jump a few steps ahead at times in order to get your problem solved more quickly. This is understandable, especially when you know that others (gregrocker & theog) are making quite an effort to help you out.

My advice would be to slow down, post frequent updates (one step at a time), and ask questions whenever you feel unsure about something. Everyone who knows a lot about this kind of stuff started out just like you. Just like you (trust me), they became proficient by muddling their way through a few things that were initially quite confusing and maybe at times a little scary.

Hang in there, Greg & theog have got you almost all the way home.
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09 Jul 2010   #49

Windows 7 Ultimate

Good Day Gentlemen!
profdlp, thanks for the advice, I will endeavor to adhere to it, within the boundaries of my personality !

I installed PW this morning and am at a loss between the differences shown by it and PW CD. First the Drives were reassigned with PW. C:MBR1 became Disk 2 and F:MBR2 became Disk 1. It also shows 2 small unallocated spaces, one before and one after the C:MBR1 System Area/MBR1 partition, which were not there on PW CD or on Computer Management/Disk Management that I ran this morning, although it still shows the 200 MB unallocated space preceding the F:MBR2 partition. This begs several questions that can be answered after the main problem is fixed.
Following is the Display of PW Home Edition.
1. Why would the Display in PW be different than PW CD?
2. Why and how, if they exist, did the 2 unallocated spaces on C:MBR1 get created as they did not show up on PW and on Disk Management.
3. Can they be safely removed?
4. Why would a Hard drive cabled to SATA 0 connector be assigned Disk 1, while a separate Hard drive to SATA 1 is assigned as Disk 0?
5. Why would a 200 MB System Area Partition which was originally on C:MBR1 get transferred to F:MBR2 without my knowledge or permission?
6. Does F:MBR2 require any System Reserve Area Partition, it will only be used for storage of a lot of files and backups and clones?
7. In the guide thread Partition or Volume - Extend it show ways to extend into areas to the left or right of the Main Partion, if I read it correctly.
8. Why do the birds go on singing, why does this heart of mine cry, I digress.

Reassigned Drive letters and System Reserve-capture.png

For Grins, this is my Disk Management this morning.

Reassigned Drive letters and System Reserve-capture1.png

Thanks to all the extremely knowledgeable and generous people who are assisting me to knock one more issue down.

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09 Jul 2010   #50

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[Quote]4. Why would a Hard drive cabled to SATA 0 connector be assigned Disk 1, while a separate Hard drive to SATA 1 is assigned as Disk 0?[Quote]

Try changing the cables round, if PC will not boot, change back.
post back.

Gerg is the expert on PW.
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