Locks, permission, lost shares

glennc · 10 Jul 2010

Hello,
My 1st issue is the Recycle Bins. At one point my computer which has a 500 MB C: with the Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit instlled on it. A 2nd Drive for backup and copies of the importand stuff. The size of the programs and amounts of photos and general stuff has made it impractical IMHO, to backup to DVD's so that what that drive is for.
I had the System Reserve Areas and the NTFS partition on bot drive showing $Recycle Bins and a lock on them. While troubleshooting I made a share as I am administrator and sole user to allow me to access them. After seeing that they all showed anything I deleted on the C: drive, I wanted to unshare them. So I went to each took the checkmark out of the share box in properties. They still share. As and uninitiate, I also have folders with number like S-1-2-21-987..... on the $Recyce Bin on the C: These will not let me open them
I also noted that my F: drive $Recycle Bin claims to be empty and disk cleanup show 0 in the F: Recycle Bin. When I did an AV scan it displayed large quantities of data files in the F: Recycle Bin.
So my questions are:
1. How do I unshare the locked recycle bin correctly?

2. How do I get rid of unaccessable folders and folders that contain junk data but say the are empty?

3. Are System Reserved partitions supposed to have $Recycle Bins?

4. When I delete a file on the C: I noted that all $Recycle Bins\Recycle Bins showed the same deleted file. Is this a normal operational experience?

Thanks for any assistance as I'm learning a lot on this site.
glennc

severedsolo · 10 Jul 2010

Hi there, while I cant answer all your questions. I can answer number 3.

The answer is yes. All Partitions have a recycle bin.

In Terms of empting the bin, try CCleaner. I had an issue where I had a power cut halfway through a recycle bin empty and it showed it as empty when it wasnt. Ccleaner cleared it out for me: http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

Bill2 · 10 Jul 2010

Try taking ownership of the inaccessible folders, recycle bins etc. Then try deleting/ changing properties.

Take Ownership Shortcut

Make sure you dont go fiddling around with junction points.

glennc · 10 Jul 2010

Hello severedsolo,
First off, let me thank you for taking time to reply. I have used CCleaner on all my previous machines and consider a great program. But I read and could be wrong, that it only cleans up 32-bit stuff. So I dumped and am using Advanced System Care sparingly doing most of my deletions with the Disk Cleanup utility.
Please if you care to, enlighten me on the compatability and thoroughnes of CCLeaner on Windows 7. I like it a lot for light clean up and it cleans the used programs out of the start menu. W7 and Disk Cleanup don't seem to do that.
Take care.
glennc

severedsolo · 10 Jul 2010

Certainly :) the latest version is definitely fully Win 7 compatible. It does the job very well.

In terms of 32 bit versus 64 bit, I can honestly say I have never noticed... Unless you are using a 64 bit browser, I dont see how it would be an issue. It certainly manages to clean the Recycle Bin, Jumplists and everything else flawlessly (which are 64 bit I assume)

EDIT: I just checked CCleaners list of stuff to clean, it has Windows Media Player in there and I only use the 64 bit version, so it is 64 bit compatible

Im going to advise you to dump ASC, I used it (and loved it) with XP, but there are several reasons it isn't very good for Win 7 I made this post to another thread but will repost here as it is relevant:

severedsolo said:

Im going to advise against ASC. It is totally unnecessary.

1) Windows does a pretty good job of looking after itself and doesnt really need this program
2) For System Cleanup CCleaner is superior
3) The Defragger isn't Superfetch aware, this slows down performance, because Windows takes longer to cache files. Windows built in Defragger is Superfetch aware.
4) The "Memory Cleanser" is useless, it clears Superfetch data, again slowing down your machine, as they need to be reloaded into the Cache again.
5) "Turbo Boost" just disables certain services, this can be achieved with a program called Soluto which will monitor your boot times and tell you what can be got rid of from your startup: Soluto â€“ Anti-Frustration Software and is again superior.

glennc · 10 Jul 2010

I hear you Martin. Although if I'm not mistaken, ASC does a more thorough version of cleaning out the registry and junk. I recall running CCleaner and then ASC and it came up with 50 more registry items and 800 or so MB more junk. Is the CCleaner a true 64-bit system or is a (x86) running in emulation?
Is there a thread on CCleaner as I'd like to use it if it does a good job and is compatible.
Thanks for your time and input.
glennc

severedsolo · 10 Jul 2010

This thread is a little general, but I think it is relevant: Latest CCleaner Version Released there is a post on the first page by Brink that sort of sums it up. I havent read the rest though.

Its 32 bit, but can obviously read 64 bit processes, as I said it cleans out my Jumplists and such (which are running in a 64 bit Windows environment)

If your only using ASC for System Cleanup then I guess you cant have too much of a good thing, but as I said in the above post, I would shy away from the other features.

glennc · 10 Jul 2010

Kind Gentleman,
Thanks for the link and insight. Also the link!! I don't use turbo boost and I don't use the defrag as I thought it might conflict with windows defragmenter. About the only none automatic program I ran once or twice was the registry defrag and it didn't do much.
Thank again for info and insight.
Cheers
glennc

glennc · 10 Jul 2010

Hello Bill2,
I don't know how, but I just saw your post. Sorry not to have thanked you for your assistance and reply earlier. With the issues I'm having I'm not sure I want to run a batch file. Like to do it with regular Windows controls. Whats getting me is that I told it to unshare and it still lets me in. Documents and Settings will not let me in and I'm afraid that the same thing will happen if I get it to work and then can't close it.
Take care.
glennc