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Windows 7: Memory Leak when Copying/Selecting Word files

27 Sep 2009   #11
chuckr

XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 View Post
We should probably take it up elsewhere though, to give the OP their thread back
Something just struck me, at the barbie:

Congratulations on your new 'Guru' badge !!!

You certainly are most deserving of it...
unlike many others here
umoh

Chuck


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27 Sep 2009   #12
thefabe

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sup3rsprt View Post
kill what process? explorer?
I think an answer to this would be a great place to start with. I also didn't expect such a response to just posting what wikipidia stated. I should be more careful in the future i recon. fabe
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27 Sep 2009   #13
chuckr

XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by thefabe View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sup3rsprt View Post
kill what process? explorer?
I think an answer to this would be a great place to start with.
I also didn't expect such a response to just posting what wikipidia stated.
I should be more careful in the future i reckon. fabe
Au contraire !

Post away - that's what we're here for.

Wikipedia is not 100% accurate all the time, so we can discuss here what might
possibly be 'errors' in the "documentation".

If I'm not mistaken, anybody can edit anything on that site.
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28 Sep 2009   #14
SDB15

Windows 7 Pro
 
 

Sorry its taken me so long to reply. I am using multimeter gadget to monitor my memory use. I am dual booting windows vista and 7 using C as my vista drive and X as my windows 7 drive when I select multiple word files in C drive (across the partition) from windows 7, the memory leaks until it has no more space. If I'm quick I can usually get a command line up and get task manager running before it locks up. Then I kill windows explorer process and type explorer.exe in the command line to reopen it.
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28 Sep 2009   #15
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SDB15 View Post
Sorry its taken me so long to reply. I am using multimeter gadget to monitor my memory use. I am dual booting windows vista and 7 using C as my vista drive and X as my windows 7 drive when I select multiple word files in C drive (across the partition) from windows 7, the memory leaks until it has no more space. If I'm quick I can usually get a command line up and get task manager running before it locks up. Then I kill windows explorer process and type explorer.exe in the command line to reopen it.
Does the same symptom occur if you boot into safe mode and try copying the files in the same way?

Chances are it's going to be something like the anti-virus filter driver.
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16 Oct 2009   #16
chuckr

XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chuckr View Post
I agree with "cannot fix the leak without source code", and I believe it is technically correct:
An 'assembler' requires source code (mnemonics) as input, to generate the computer's binary op-codes, etc. as an object file for linkage, etc. to generate the .exe executable...
... through analysis of the disassembled mnemonics - with no access to the original source code.

(As a minor off-topic point, "object files" are produced by a compiler, not by an "assembler".)
Not to let this "fall through the cracks", as regards "object files" produced by an "assembler":

See this link: MASM32

Quote:
( Slightly modified: )
Why Write Assembler
The simple answer is because you can. While there are very good compilers that in many instances produce good quality code when run with the right options, you are usually stuck with doing things their way where with an assembler as powerful as MASM you have a high degree of architectural freedom which you manipulate to your design advantage to produce high precision high performance code without compromise to language format or compiler designer preference.

MASM's flexibility allows the skilled programmer to target areas as diverse as dynamic link libraries for 'various programs', object modules that are linked directly into
'various programs' and of course complete executable files for task critical applications. MASM when mastered correctly put power and performance into the hands of programmers that few have ever seen and contrary to popular opinion, a modern assembler like MASM, used in conjunction with both macros and libraries, can be coded at about the same speed and reliability as 'other' code.
An even more important point here, is that with a really good disassembler,
the output mnemonics can be used as "source-code" input to an assembler,
to yield a dll or an object file.
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16 Oct 2009   #17
H2SO4

Win7x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chuckr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 View Post
(As a minor off-topic point, "object files" are produced by a compiler, not by an "assembler".)
Not to let this "fall through the cracks", as regards "object files" produced by an "assembler":
I stand corrected. It is indeed possible for an assembler to produce a binary which technically qualifies as an "object file", but I'd argue that the overwhelming percentage of object files are compiled, not assembled.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chuckr View Post
An even more important point here, is that with a really good disassembler,

the output mnemonics can be used as "source-code" input to an assembler,
to yield a dll or an object file.
That still doesn't make the disassembled mnemonics the "source code" for the original executable, just as using a really good DAT recorder to grab Beethoven's 9th Symphony off the radio doesn't mean I now have access to his sheet music
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16 Oct 2009   #18
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 View Post
using a really good DAT recorder to grab Beethoven's 9th Symphony off the radio doesn't mean I now have access to his sheet music
I'd transcribe it for ya arranged for guitar, heh. One of my favorite pieces of all time!
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16 Oct 2009   #19
chuckr

XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 View Post
That still doesn't make the disassembled mnemonics the "source code" for the original executable, just as using a really good DAT recorder to grab Beethoven's 9th Symphony off the radio doesn't mean I now have access to his sheet music
Indeed it does, IFF the resultant binaries are identical, byte-for-byte...
(If they're not, then you'd have to tweak the mnemonics to 'fit' the original .exe binary.)

I can't believe that you, of all people, would record the Choral "off the radio"...

However, if you had a really, really, excellent "Demusiker",
and
your A/D converters were of excellent quality, one would never know:



I hope it was Toscanini's version...
Quote:
Tochter aus Elysium,Freude, schöner Götterfunken
Perhaps Rachmaninoff's 2nd Piano Concerto could be an early test-trial of the "Demusiker"
since it's more familiar to many people, and a little less complicated...

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16 Oct 2009   #20
jcuervo79

windows 7
 
 
i have the same problem

SDB15, I have the same problem, when i select any word files on explorer the memory consumption goes up 100% and freeze up the machine. This problem only happens with word files (Microsoft word 2007).... Do you solve the problem????.

OS . Win 7
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