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Windows 7: Windows Movie Maker Fill Screen

16 Aug 2010   #21
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Actually it works very well with Windows Live Movie Maker. All you do is set the aspect ratio correctly before you save the movie,
I had to use that before I used Windows DVD maker if I wanted it in the correct aspect.

Apparently, Windows DVD maker has some kind of a glitch that no matter what you select, the aspect comes out 4.3.

The fix is to build the project 1st in Live Move Maker, save it in the appropriate aspect you want, THEN burn it on Windows DVD maker if you want to have the nice menu options.

A PIA, but what's life without a few workarounds?

Or you can use other software....


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16 Aug 2010   #22
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Actually it works very well with Windows Live Movie Maker. All you do is set the aspect ratio correctly before you save the movie,
I had to use that before I used Windows DVD maker if I wanted it in the correct aspect.

Apparently, Windows DVD maker has some kind of a glitch that no matter what you select, the aspect comes out 4.3.

The fix is to build the project 1st in Live Move Maker, save it in the appropriate aspect you want, THEN burn it on Windows DVD maker if you want to have the nice menu options.

A PIA, but what's life without a few workarounds?

Or you can use other software....
Or you burn it directly to DVD with WLMM.
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16 Aug 2010   #23
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

What you say is perfectly true but it doesn't alter the fact that the OP has very small (in terms of pixel size) video clips that are 4:3 and he appears to want a full size widescreen video from it. That wont work successfully, full stop. He must either accept quite severe distortion or have black borders at the sides. Of course, he can put theatre type curtains instead of the black bars or any other background if he wishes insrtead of plain black but the constraints will still be there. I am still not sure what he, the OP, wants to use the final video for! One of the main problems that is stopping us moving forward is that the OP has no DVD discs to try!
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16 Aug 2010   #24
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

mitch you are right. The OP will end up with modern raster art.
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16 Aug 2010   #25
Spottedfeather

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

I don't want a widescreen picture. I want the 4:3 picture to be either a square with bars on the sides when viewed on a widescreen tv, or fill a 4:3 screen when viewd on a regular tv. Is there a way to burn it with Windows DVD Maker to get it to do both ?
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17 Aug 2010   #26
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Yes just burn it as a 4:3 video.
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17 Aug 2010   #27
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Spottedfeather View Post
I don't want a widescreen picture. I want the 4:3 picture to be either a square with bars on the sides when viewed on a widescreen tv, or fill a 4:3 screen when viewd on a regular tv. Is there a way to burn it with Windows DVD Maker to get it to do both ?
Yes there is a way. Just burn the clip to a DVD setting the properties to 4:3. when you say is there a way to do both, it's one and the same thing. If you see black bars on the widescreen TV then the same DVD will fill the 4:3 screen with no black bars.
The latest clip you sent me did seem to have been reduced in size so that it sat in a black border all round. This has nothing to do with the black bars on the edges. I just used an enlarging filter on the clip brought it back to full size, burn a DVD to 4:3 and it worked exactly as you want it too. Black bars on widescreen, full screen on a 4:3 set. The quality was not that good as it had been enlarged too much!
When you do get round to getting these clips on DVD as the clips are relatively small you can put a number onto one DVD disc. Up to 4.7Gb to be precise. I did this with the two clips you sent me and added a couple of my own and set a menu at the beginning so you can choose to play either the whole lot in one go or choose indidividual clips.
This can all quite simply be done with the software I mentioned earlier. I expect Win Movie Maker will do it as well but I have never really got into that and as the new version no longer has a timeline facility it will not fulfil my needs for video editing.
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18 Aug 2010   #28
Spottedfeather

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

The enlarging filter was in Corel Video Studio x3 ?
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20 Aug 2010   #29
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Spottedfeather View Post
The enlarging filter was in Corel Video Studio x3 ?
I do apologise. I had typed up a reply to your post and something must have happened that caused me to close down without submitting the post.
Here's another go:
First make sure your Project Properties are set to 4:3 aspect.
It is not exactly a filter. If you put a video clip in the timeline, select it then to the right of the screen half way down you will see "Options". Click that and a dialogue will open with a "Video" Tag and "Attribute" tag. Click "Attribute". The check the "Distort Clip" box.
That will put a rectangle in the preview window which will have small green "handles" in each corner and small yellow handles. If you grab the green handles you can drag the square to any four sided shape you wish, true distortion. Dragging by the yellow handles will enlarge or reduce the square but will not preserve the aspect ratio. To preserve the aspect ratio you need to hold down Ctrl while dragging the yellow squares.
That's what you would need to do if the clips are like the second one you sent me that looked like letterboxed.You can then move the rectangle by holding down the left mouse button and just dragging. Remember though that if you increase the size if the retangle you will reduce the quality of the finished video!
For nornal clips, with the "Distort Clip" square showing, right click inside the square and a drop down menu opens, try them all but "Fit to screen" is what you need here.
Hope all that makes sense. I will email admin as we are discussing 3rd party Software and it may be preferred to use PM or email.
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21 Aug 2010   #30
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hi Spotted feather
Can we put all your posts on this thread as now I have two PM's and a thread here all on the same subject. You have asked a question in a PM that is answered here on the thread. It is how to make a clip with black borders all round fill a 4:3 screen. The post I did was quite lengthy so I don't want to do it all again. The important thing is we seem to be using different software and that just wont gel. I thought you had downloaded the TBYB version of the Video Studio software but now you seem to have gone back to Windows movie maker!
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