Why are media players so awful?

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  1. Posts : 1,018
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #21

    I'm curious. You mention WMP 10 and WMP 12 but what about WMP 11? Even to this day, I still prefer that version of WMP to 12 because 11 had a nice and easy to use UI in my view along with great library management features.
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  2. Posts : 385
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64 OEM --> RTM clean install
       #22

    Mediamonkey Gold for audio - Excellent library indexing / searching, (free version available)

    WMP12 or MPCStar for video
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  3. Posts : 4,047
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #23

    Was that question for me?


    Darician said:
    I'm curious. You mention WMP 10 and WMP 12 but what about WMP 11? Even to this day, I still prefer that version of WMP to 12 because 11 had a nice and easy to use UI in my view along with great library management features.
    I've never installed/used Vista on my PC.
    Until July this year, my "hand-me-down" PCs have always being obsolete junk.
    This meant there was no possible way to run Vista.

    I used Vista on several training courses and I didn't like it.
    IMO, it takes 3x as many clicks to get something done in Vista, as it does in XP (at least for the settings I tried playing with).

    I added Windows 7 (and Ubuntu 10.04) to my HDD and kept XP.
    I've got a powerful PC now and the speedier Windows 7 (double bonus).

    I've seen other comments saying that WMP 11 is/was good.

    I've never tried it.
    When I was extolling the features of a certain browser toolbar, WMP 11 stopped it from working properly on my friend's Vista laptop.
    My friend had installed the toolbar, because I said it was good.
    As a result, I never upgraded WMP 10 to WMP 11 (on my XP partition).

    I've seen articles saying that you can install WMP 11 on a Windows 7 PC, however I've also read comments from other people, saying that they couldn't get it to work.
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  4. Posts : 670
    Windows 7 Pro 64bit build 7601 SP1
       #24

    I almost never use WMP, I didn't even know we were on v12. LOL
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  5. Posts : 501
    Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
       #25

    Foobar2000 for audio and sorry but I do like Media Player Classic.
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  6. Posts : 1,018
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       #26

    I've installed WMP 11 in Windows 7 32-bit and although most of the kinks were indeed worked out however, the one major drawback at least for me was that whenever you tried to use the "Add to playlist" function without WMP already being open, it would stall in opening the file and error out.

    But I do use WMP simply because it's easy to use, manages my library easily and is an all-in-one audio/video player and can also server as a picture viewer and provides DLNA functionality for my other media devices around the house. The only oddity is streaming MKV as I can't forward or rewind but that's for another thread. I've tried other media players and they just don't quite fit the bill for me like WMP with the Shark 007 codecs. Although WMP 12 does not have a UI I particularly like, I still find it easier to use than most other players I've tried. And to be honest, the one feature it has that I like about it over almost any other media player I've tried is the integrated SRS WOW effects.

    As far as horror stories, I remember Musicmatch Jukebox ... version 5 I think as it was around 2000. I even bought it for $50 so I could burn CDs with it. What a piece of crap player that was with a slow, clunky, horrible UI. I also tried Real Player around that time and still quite a crappy player. Another one that just never seems to work quite right and has a lot of performance issues in Windows are iTunes and QuickTime Player. Although now on my Core i3, they certainly are quite snappier but they've never approached that level on any more modest machines with older Pentium Ds and Pentium 4s that I've tried.
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  7. Posts : 22
    7UX64
       #27

    I'm in the process of setting up XBMC. I've heard really great things about it and so far I'm really liking it. My PC is at the center of my HT/Media environment and I'm really looking for a program that effectively manages all my media needs.

    Having said that, I'm really curious to know what other peoples media environments look like[physical set-up]. Is there a thread like this that someone knows of?
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  8. Posts : 4,047
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #28

    Not just Windows ...


    The media players that I have tried in Ubuntu are awful too.

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    Evols said:
    I'm in the process of setting up XBMC. I've heard really great things about it and so far I'm really liking it. My PC is at the center of my HT/Media environment and I'm really looking for a program that effectively manages all my media needs.

    Having said that, I'm really curious to know what other peoples media environments look like[physical set-up]. Is there a thread like this that someone knows of?
    Have you tried the Media Center section?
    https://www.sevenforums.com/media-center/
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 12 Jun 2011 at 09:28. Reason: Additional
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  9. Posts : 6,618
    W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
       #29

    Evols said:
    I'm in the process of setting up XBMC. I've heard really great things about it and so far I'm really liking it. My PC is at the center of my HT/Media environment and I'm really looking for a program that effectively manages all my media needs.

    Having said that, I'm really curious to know what other peoples media environments look like[physical set-up]. Is there a thread like this that someone knows of?
    I have been using XBMC for a while, and I agree that it is very good. The only thing that I have had a problem with so far, is that the scrapers in it do a poor job of identifying video files, and too often a file has the wrong information or the thumbnail is in a foreign language or there is no information at all.

    I have been advised to use other scrapers to offset this, but so far I have been unable to figure out how to do so. If I could, this program would be perfect.
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  10. Rxx
    Posts : 35
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #30

    The WMP 11 Series crashed a lot if you have too much music, not to mention it took at least 12 seconds to search for anything. The 10 series had none of those flaws. The 12 series is like the 11 but they actually fixed all the bugs.
    Any WMP version is not half bad for UI because you can just switch to a better skin mod. You just have to find a skin you like.
    I'm going to have to look for the 10 series, that really was the best. The only reason I even installed the 11 was because it made my XP start up right. :P

    The most important thing in a media player is the play count! All I want is a media player the syncs the play count from my Zen player. WMP is the only one I've used that can do that. Heh even the creative media source player that came with it, couldn't do that.
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