Convert and Burn BD?


  1. Posts : 334
    Win7 64bit Ultimate
       #1

    Convert and Burn BD?


    I bought a bluray burner. I now regret that.

    But I want to take a file such as mkv or mp4 etc and convert it back to bluray format and then burn it to a blank bd-r. So far I have not found anything capable of doing the job the way I want it done.

    I am looking for something similar to convertXtodvd only for bluray.

    Has anyone done anything with bluray yet? I need some software suggestions or I am going to sell this drive and go back to my old one.
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  2. Posts : 5,440
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #2

    First off what are the properties of the files you wish to convert? Unless they were originally high definition clips then you are wasting your time. Coincidently if you think your new BD writer is not working properly, put the standard writer back in, come back here and I will explain how to create up to a 30 minute Blu-Ray disc from a standard DVD writer! You do not need a special Blu-Ray burner to do this. I only now produce high def DVD's and I haven't got a Blu-Ray writer. I just use my standard writer and the free software "Burn aware"
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  3. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #3

    You can use TS Muxer to create a AVCHD disc, and burn the resulting folders to Disc.
    It will be a BluRay Structure which can be burned to DVD, DVD DL, or BD disc.


    However, you must know a bit about the file itself.
    1. It must be 1280x720 or 1920x1080. Not close, but exactly.
    2. It must have been encoded properly. Typically 4 or 5 Ref. Frames.
    Anything more, it may not work. A lot depends on the playback device as well.

    Theres a lot of other settings as well that need to conform to strict guidelines.

    If you just downloaded them, chances are they don't even come remotely close to BlueRay specs.
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  4. Posts : 334
    Win7 64bit Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Wishmaster said:
    You can use TS Muxer to create a AVCHD disc, and burn the resulting folders to Disc.
    It will be a BluRay Structure which can be burned to DVD, DVD DL, or BD disc.


    However, you must know a bit about the file itself.
    1. It must be 1280x720 or 1920x1080. Not close, but exactly.
    2. It must have been encoded properly. Typically 4 or 5 Ref. Frames.
    Anything more, it may not work. A lot depends on the playback device as well.

    Theres a lot of other settings as well that need to conform to strict guidelines.

    If you just downloaded them, chances are they don't even come remotely close to BlueRay specs.
    Now that is exactly what I was after. I have heard that TS Muxer could do the job as well but no one would go into any real detail.

    As for the format I do want to convert a file that is exactly 1080 or 720 and was created from an HD source. I want to convert a blu-ray rip that was ripped from a blu-ray disc as h.264 back into blu-ray structure for burning onto a BD-R disc.

    This is why I do need a blu-ray burner and discs for the project. I want to be able to play the finished discs back over a blu-ray player at the same full quality level as the original disc.

    I think I will give TS Muxer a try and see what I can do.
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  5. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #5

    TS Muxer should work just fine for you, provided the rip was encoded properly.

    As I said, it really does depend on the playback device.

    As a reference, my particular BD player requires these H264 settings if recoded:

    --level 4.1 --bframes 3 --ref 4 --b-pyramid strict --keyint 24 --min-keyint 2 --vbv-maxrate 14000 --vbv-bufsize 14500

    The rest is pretty much optional.

    If you are not re-coding at all .. well, it should be pretty staright forward.


    I use IMGBurn to burn the disc, but TBH, I also only use DVD or DL-DVD. Not sure off hand if it handles BD as well.
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  6. Posts : 409
    win7 Ult 64
       #6

    ImgBurn will burn to BD media; of course you need a BD Burner. ImgBurn is IMO the best burning application period.
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  7. Posts : 334
    Win7 64bit Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Kipper said:
    ImgBurn will burn to BD media; of course you need a BD Burner. ImgBurn is IMO the best burning application period.
    Correct and it is a great burning app. I also planned to use it for this purpose. I knew that once I got a file back into BD structure I could easily burn it back to disc with ImgBurn the problem was getting files back into the proper structure.

    I have a lot of fancy tools at my disposal but finding blu-ray utilities has been an issue for me.
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  8. Posts : 441
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
       #8

    Check whether the Freemake Video Converter can be of any help to you.

    At this point in time, what all I know is that it can convert any video and burn it to a BD.

    Download from here Freemake - Best Freeware Alternatives To Paid Video Software and try it.

    Your report on how well or otherwise it performed for your project may be of help to others. ( Use a BD-RE for the trial)

    EDIT:Though I am averse to any conversion process that will change the original, out of curiosity I decided to try the conversion and burn to BD of the Freemake Video Converter.

    To this end, I first converted a less than 25GB main video of a BD with DTS HD and DTS 3/2+1 audio plus English subtitles - which I already had as a BD ISO - to an mkv file using MakeMKV (MakeMKV - Make MKV from Blu-ray and DVD). I opened this mkv file in the Freemake Video Converter,hit the To Bluray button and started the conversion & burning process. Its just click and keep watching. The conversion/burning process is on and here is the clip, where one can see the input file attributes and the BD content attributes. The only thing I can see is that DTS is now converted into AC3. Once the burning is over, I shall try to play it on my PS3 Slim and let all know. It shall be for others to scrutinise this screenshot and give their comments.

    Convert and Burn BD?-mkv2bd.jpg
    Last edited by Ponmayilal; 17 Jan 2011 at 13:07.
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  9. Posts : 441
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
       #9

    Update


    The BD was successfully created. It took about 3hours and 23 minutes for the conversion and another one hour + ( I lost the time count since I was busy doing something else - what else but browsing the forum ) for the burning. (No seperate burning program needed.)

    I played it both on my desktop with Power DVD and on my PS3 slim. But for the fact that the sound now is ac3 5.1 as against the original DTS MA 5.1 as indicated in my last post, there was no other discernible difference. The subtitle is directly rendered on the video.

    So I do think that the OP's question has been answered successfully. He may have his HD video clips in different containers. The Freemake Video Converter facilitates joining of the various clips and also a rudimentary editing feature. He only has to try and report whether his requirements are met and how happy or otherwise he is with this simple and straight-forward BD creator.
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  10. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #10

    I think AC3 is a good way to go for compressed files. I always convert DTS to AC3.


    TBH, I can not tell that much of a difference between the Core 640 AC3 and Core 1536 DTS. And many times, 640AC3 vs 448AC3 is hard for me to tell the difference in as well.

    Many Times I just compress it down to a 448 AC3 5.1 track, unless its a Music Concert and I leave it at 640. (I can tell a slight difference with Concerts)

    But I think this all comes down to the quality of speakers themselves.
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