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Windows 7: Help to do same things in WMP12 I used to do in WMP10

15 Aug 2011   #11
Jim22

Windows 7 32bit
 
 

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I surveyed the market many years aback, and found ONLY WMP had a suitable friendly UI that listed music with most of the tags that I sought. None of those in your link came close when it comes to classifying music categories. (your link recommended VLC - I use thatfor near all my videos - but never music. Thought Winamp went overly ugly/bloated after V3). If anyone knows a new, preferably Open Source, nag-free software with at least as rich a set of sortable Attributes as supported by WMP, will consider switching.
Just a recommendation... Jaangle.

(also supports FLAC, and FLAC tags, and album/artist art, and album review/tracklist, and 12 different sort/presentation sequence modes and multiple "styles", and sortable tag columns, and built-in player with 3-band EQ, and creation of M3U playlists, etc., etc.)

See this post.


Also, I had an extensive ongoing discussion on another thread, where the interactions regarding Jaangle (and MP3Tag) pretty much constituted a tutorial on how Jaangle can be used and customized.

So for much more instruction on installation and use of Jaangle, read this other thread.
Thanks for that, am abiut to leave cafe - 3gconnection broekn at home, so v. intermittne access to net


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15 Aug 2011   #12
boohbah

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600
 
 

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sory jim no idea, i know how to set up wmp and thats about the extent of it, there is a way to refresh the wmp library i shall have a looksee and see if i can find out how to.

you could try to remove the folders from the library setting under manage library the re-add them to see if this will force a refresh enabling the items to remain showing. bit of a longshot.
ok i found this this may do it,
Windows Media Player libraries - how to auto-refresh? - Microsoft Answers
good luck
Accessing your reply from a remote cybercafe long way frm mmy pc as 3g connection down. Thanks, will try our suggestion when I get back; meanwhile, i nm yrush I did a silly thing: Help ! In effort to diagnose cause of the above problem, as I never use WMP only for Music (use other Apps for Pictures, Video) today I thought to stop its list of unused list of Monitored locations and did a Manage Libraries>Pictures>Remove Libraries. To my horror it has deleted all my pictures from the HDD ! As I am used to WMP behaviour Asking if you want to delete from Library only or HDD also, I wasn't expecting this. May be surprising but I have never been caught out like this before. It deleted even the My Pictures and Public Pictures folders. It is not in the Recycle Bin. Is there an easy Restore Deleted folder/file cmd ?
your going to have to use a recovery software like recuva and do it fast before you do anything else with your computer to give yourself a chance of getting the pics back.
Recuva - Undelete, Unerase, File and Disk Recovery - Free Download
also if you go to options in wmp and click the library tab then uncheck the delete files from computer when deleted from library ,this will save you stress in the future.
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19 Aug 2011   #13
Jim22

Windows 7 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by boohbah View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jim22 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by boohbah View Post
sory jim no idea, i know how to set up wmp and thats about the extent of it, there is a way to refresh the wmp library i shall have a looksee and see if i can find out how to.

you could try to remove the folders from the library setting under manage library the re-add them to see if this will force a refresh enabling the items to remain showing. bit of a longshot.
ok i found this this may do it,
Windows Media Player libraries - how to auto-refresh? - Microsoft Answers
good luck
Accessing your reply from a remote cybercafe long way frm mmy pc as 3g connection down. Thanks, will try our suggestion when I get back; meanwhile, i nm yrush I did a silly thing: Help ! In effort to diagnose cause of the above problem, as I never use WMP only for Music (use other Apps for Pictures, Video) today I thought to stop its list of unused list of Monitored locations and did a Manage Libraries>Pictures>Remove Libraries. To my horror it has deleted all my pictures from the HDD ! As I am used to WMP behaviour Asking if you want to delete from Library only or HDD also, I wasn't expecting this. May be surprising but I have never been caught out like this before. It deleted even the My Pictures and Public Pictures folders. It is not in the Recycle Bin. Is there an easy Restore Deleted folder/file cmd ?
your going to have to use a recovery software like recuva and do it fast before you do anything else with your computer to give yourself a chance of getting the pics back.
Recuva - Undelete, Unerase, File and Disk Recovery - Free Download
also if you go to options in wmp and click the library tab then uncheck the delete files from computer when deleted from library ,this will save you stress in the future.
Thanks for the 2 tips - will use.
On subject of this original post - how to get it to Import from the local 'My Music':

Shortly after 'experimenting' by what I thought was just stopping WMP from MONITORING media types I didnt want it to involve itself with, I then did a similar thing by removing the monitored location on the remote PC - ensuring the remote PC was switched off beforehand ! The UI process was instant, and I thought to restart WMP for fresh start. But after 'closing' it took several minutes before its icon in the taskbar stopped flashing. When that had completed, I reopened WMP and surprise surprise, my local Music became visible !!!

I conclude from this, WMP has a conflict when 'My Music' is Added to Monitored locations, from a local, and a remote PC. Is this right ? I read in the initial descriptions of WMP12 that it COULD handle Music from remote PCs. When setting up the new Win7 PC, rather than copy my music over from the old WinXP pc, I just set it to Monitor the remote 'My Music' - which seemed to collect 90+% of that collection (not sure why it missed a small %). Seem to remember by default WMP12 already had the local 'My Music' folder in its list of Monitored locations. Certainly no conflict in the 'Monitor Locations dialog/folder.. remote pc had correct lan prefix

As pointed out in my 3rd post under 'General discussion' (as after 4 days, no replies to initial 2 posts posted in Music...), my other initial post on same date/time, was asking HOW can one maintain totally independant Music Collections in WMP (V10 or 12) that dont cross-mix each others Attributes/tags,eg Genres/Subgenres, Composers. i.e keep ALL Collections specific Attrigute/tag data - WITH each Music Collection it belongs to, where WMP (or anything in the host OS) remains vanilla pure, and able to work with each User Defined tag-set on a per-session basis.

Has anyone got any suggestions to achieving this ?

Thanks in advance. btw, this is the 1st day in 2 weeks, have been able to use my 3G net provider, so not sure yet, if able to quickly monitor responses.
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19 Aug 2011   #14
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Mediamonkey offers the best database management system for music that I have seen and is extremely flexible.

The free version has most of the functions you could need and is capable of handling 10's of Thousands of files with all metadata tags available, the gold (paid) version adds gloss to the system but is not really required, (you'll need a free lame encoder for ripping due to licencing restrictions)
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19 Aug 2011   #15
boohbah

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600
 
 

RE independant music collections, not sure if this is what you mean ,but i have a music collection and so does my wife ,the best solution for us to keep the collections separate was to have a media player each, my wife uses media monkey and i used wmp for a while ,i got fed up with wmp taking ages to load and with rthe constant not responding i gave up with it and i use winamp. how i do it now is i have a music folder and i select from there what i want to play and it opens in winamp. my wife has a smaller collection so opens media monkey and selects her music from there (it is set to monitor her music folder)
i guess if you want to use wmp but keep collections independant is to keep one of the music collections separate and dont add it to the music library, this may mean not having it in the my music default music folder. there is a setting in wmp to " not " add a file to the library when played in wmp. hope this helps and doesnt further frustrate you.
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19 Aug 2011   #16
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Independent libraries in WMP on win7 are designed to utilise the user accounts system - Each user should create their own library on their login and organise as they wish.

This works with systems where the users are sharing the same machine or are on separate systems on the network, with the libraries appearing in the library view if this is allowed by the user (set on the media sharing dialog)
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