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Windows 7: VLC playback blocky/pixelated?

19 Jun 2009   #31
herzeleid

Windows 7 7232b x64
 
 

In VLC
Tools-Preferences-Video
set video output to DirectX and pixelation is gone for videos and unfortunately aero transparency too, but it is back when you close VLC. VLC needs an update for compatibility with windows 7 and directx apparently. I don't recall any problems with KMPlayer, I use sharks codecs and WMP for video.


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19 Jun 2009   #32
John Henry

Win 7 RC 64bit b7229
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo View Post
that's really not enough information to troubleshoot.

what's the container/codec of your source?
what splitter/filter have you assigned to that container/codec?
what other players have you tried, and what's the result?
are you certain that the source itself isn't pixelated, and that other players are artificially smoothing the output?
KMPlayer codecs are default, didn't touch them.
External codecs are Haali Matroska Splitter, FFdshow Tryouts, AC3Filter.
I tried with WMP and MPC-HC, both working fine. I disabled all the internal codecs in MPC-HC. And yes i'm sure the source isn't pixelated. They are dvdrips mkv 1,4gb each with ac3 audio made by pro users. This is one of the videos info:

Quote:
FourCC: xvid/XVID
Res: 592 x 320
Frame aspect ratio: 37:20 = 1.85
Pixel aspect ratio: 1:1 = 1
Display aspect ratio: 37:20 = 1.85
Framerate: 25 fps
Frames tot: 174751
Stream size: 769,762,672 bytes
Bitrate: 880.982279 kbps
Qf: 0.186018
Key frames: 2156 (0; 250; 368; 618; 668; ... 174641)
Null frames: 0
Min key int: 1
Max key int: 250
Key int medio: 81.053339
Latency: 0 ms


Res: Medium (592 x 320)
Width: moltip of 16 (GOOD)
Height: moltip of 32 (GOOD)
Quality DRF medium: HIGH (2.742118)
Quality deviation standard: HIGH (0.539778)
Medium dev. std.: HIGH (0.345032)
DO i actually have to use external codecs in KMP?
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19 Jun 2009   #33
garbanzo

7600 x86
 
 

if you have not touched the filter sectoin of KMP's options, then Haali Matroska Splitter, FFdshow Tryouts, and AC3Filter are doing absolutely nothing.

even disabling internal filters in MPC won't activate these - you have to manually add them and tell your player when to use them.

video players aren't magical things. they need a lot of tweaking to get set just right so they work properly with your system. this is one of the main reasons i prefer MPC. i use a portable install that keeps settings in a local INI. i keep it on a non-system partition, so when i have to reinstall, i don't lose my settings, which took forever to get just right! i just have to reinstall a Matroska, AC3, ffdshow, and CoreAVC, and i'm good to go.
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19 Jun 2009   #34
John Henry

Win 7 RC 64bit b7229
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo View Post
if you have not touched the filter sectoin of KMP's options, then Haali Matroska Splitter, FFdshow Tryouts, and AC3Filter are doing absolutely nothing.

even disabling internal filters in MPC won't activate these - you have to manually add them and tell your player when to use them.

video players aren't magical things. they need a lot of tweaking to get set just right so they work properly with your system. this is one of the main reasons i prefer MPC. i use a portable install that keeps settings in a local INI. i keep it on a non-system partition, so when i have to reinstall, i don't lose my settings, which took forever to get just right! i just have to reinstall a Matroska, AC3, ffdshow, and CoreAVC, and i'm good to go.
I'm using MPC too, but since a lot of users says KMP is very good and simple, just install and watch. I didn't feel the same. My results are worse than VLC default installation.

Where do i find the INI of mpc-hc? I did look in the AppData folder and Program FIles and there are no INI at all.
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19 Jun 2009   #35
garbanzo

7600 x86
 
 

install-and-go systems that rely exclusively on internal filters are ok for most users, but then again, most people are ok watching single dvd rips of 2 hour films encoded by some click-and-go app. VLC tends to perform a lot of smoothing and other post-processing actions to make videos appear smoother, while KMP offer a more authentic output, but neither are ideal right out of the box.

for a portable install of MPC, just go to the options screen, and right there on the first page, right hand column about half-way down, there is an option "Store settings to .ini file". that's all it needs. set that, exit, then you can copy the whole MPC folder to a thumb drive or wherever and keep all the settings intact.
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19 Jun 2009   #36
John Henry

Win 7 RC 64bit b7229
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo View Post
install-and-go systems that rely exclusively on internal filters are ok for most users, but then again, most people are ok watching single dvd rips of 2 hour films encoded by some click-and-go app. VLC tends to perform a lot of smoothing and other post-processing actions to make videos appear smoother, while KMP offer a more authentic output, but neither are ideal right out of the box.

for a portable install of MPC, just go to the options screen, and right there on the first page, right hand column about half-way down, there is an option "Store settings to .ini file". that's all it needs. set that, exit, then you can copy the whole MPC folder to a thumb drive or wherever and keep all the settings intact.

Thank you mate!
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31 Jul 2009   #37
ShazaM

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit (Build 7600)
 
 

Garbanzo,

I just installed a fresh copy of W7 Ultimate 64bit. On my laptop, I use BS.Player Pro and it plays everything sharp and clear for me with no problems. This time, on my desktop, I decided to go back to VLC and see if the new update had fixed anything. Unfortunately, not.

Now, I went on VLC's settings, turned Video Output from Default to OpenGL, I get no extreme pixelation but the video quality is a lot poorer than that of BS.Player back on my laptop.

My problem with installing something like MPC or BS.Player on the desktop is whenever I install these custom codecs. They screw up big time with my Audio Playback. Last time I installed BS.Player with its codec manager which installed FFDSHOW Video and Audio codecs, My audio got so muffled to the point where I couldn't play any of my movies for the sheer fact that I couldn't hear the audio properly.

I have an SB X-FI 5.1 sound card and having 5.1 playback is key for me. What can I use that would be able to play all my XVID/MKV rips without screwing with my online video playback and my audio channels. I am sick and tired of downloading random codecs and ending up screwing everything altogether.

K-Lite codec pack, wrecked havoc on my computer the last time I installed it. And CCCP installs a bunch of Audio codecs and AC3 filters that screw up my audio big time. How the hell does someone watch videos on Windows 7?

Sorry for my tone, but I'm extremely frustrated with this matter. I wish VLC would just study this matter and fix it. It used to be my favorite player.
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31 Jul 2009   #38
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

ShazaM

what I would do is un-install all the codecs. they install all sorts of thing we dont even know. Then try vlc (new rev is out). Vlc does play mkv files. there are several threads abt codecs causing problems and solutions for them Just search here at sevenforums

Ken
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31 Jul 2009   #39
dan7777

windows 7 RTM
 
 

i use gom player seems alot better than vlc these days
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31 Jul 2009   #40
driecken

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Combined Community Codec Pack works fine for WMP, also I like media player classic, and vlc is ok for a lot of file codecs, as far as ease of access.
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