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Windows 7: Universal Video Format?

17 Jul 2010   #11
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

VideoHelp.com

That's the first place you should go.
There are all kinds of How To's out there.

Video creation, rendering and burning can be a subjective thing.

How are you retrieving the video (more like where from)? TV, DVD, Home Movie? What's the source?

AVI is uncompressed video, and is the medium used when you need to do real editing, such as cleaning up video, splicing, doing effects etc.

If you are just trying to take video and convert it to work through DVD.
Then your best medium to start with, (other than trying to convert to HD) is MPEG and not AVI.

You will need to do a lot of research and learning on the subject to really be able to just jump in and do it.
There isn't much to it really, but it's not a straight point and click process unless you do give WMM a try, which does work. You will still need to do some reading and get a good understanding of the process of Video ripping/conversion and DVD Creation.

Check out that site I posted,,, I could write a full blog thread on the subject, but it can get complicated and I can't make time for that. Understanding the process is the first step to simplifying the process, even if you are only going to use Windows Media Maker.


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17 Jul 2010   #12
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote:
VideoHelp.com

That's the first place you should go.
There are all kinds of How To's out there.

Video creation, rendering and burning can be a subjective thing.

How are you retrieving the video (more like where from)? TV, DVD, Home Movie? What's the source?
DVD, TV and internet.
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AVI is uncompressed video, and is the medium used when you need to do real editing, such as cleaning up video, splicing, doing effects etc.
Since I don't create videos or movies, I don't anticipate the need to do any editting or authoring...except possibly to cut commercials out of something recorded from TV. Therefore, AVI may be useful on occassion, but not too often.
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If you are just trying to take video and convert it to work through DVD.
Then your best medium to start with, (other than trying to convert to HD) is MPEG and not AVI.

You will need to do a lot of research and learning on the subject to really be able to just jump in and do it.
There isn't much to it really, but it's not a straight point and click process unless you do give WMM a try, which does work. You will still need to do some reading and get a good understanding of the process of Video ripping/conversion and DVD Creation.

Check out that site I posted,,, I could write a full blog thread on the subject, but it can get complicated and I can't make time for that. Understanding the process is the first step to simplifying the process, even if you are only going to use Windows Media Maker.
Something that I'm not clear on is how MPEG is identified in all cases. There is MPEG 2, MPEG 4, MPG and I can't remember if there are any other possibilities...are these all names for MPEG?
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17 Jul 2010   #13
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Well,, Like I said,, you best resource for all of this is going to be VideoHelp.com

Every question you have will be answered out there.

This might help.... after spending roughly 100+ hours learning the process and the best way of doing all this,....

My 3 main tools...

Huappauge is my capture card, so I use their software WinTV to capture from TV.
but I use Win 7 32-Bit as the Huappauge software is not x64 compatible.

Womble MPEG Editor - to edit commercials, this would need tested under 7 x64, it works on x32. The software is not free.

DVDLab - also not free, for creating/authoring DVD's

VirtualDUB and TMPeG Editor among other various tools to do video rendering and conversion when needed.

There is no strait forward single answer to any of this that anyone can give.
You need to research this and find what works for you.

VideoHelp.com
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19 Jul 2010   #14
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

DVD Flick is a free, good program that converts just about any format into DVD. It has authoring tools and many options.

DVD Flick

Please note that this runs best when compatibility mode is set to XP Service Pack 3
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19 Jul 2010   #15
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
DVD Flick is a free, good program that converts just about any format into DVD. It has authoring tools and many options.

DVD Flick

Please note that this runs best when compatibility mode is set to XP Service Pack 3
Thanks, I just downloaded and installed the program. It looks good on the surface, particularly about it's format compatibility. Since I didn't find a specific list, I guess one would just have to try a format to see how it goes.

Eliminating the burning and authoring aspects, have you found that any particular format is more useful than others?
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19 Jul 2010   #16
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

Hey seekermeister,

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DVD Flick supports these video file types:
AVI, FLV, HDMOV, MKV, MJPG, MPG, M2V, MP4, M4V, NSV, NUT, QT, MOV, RM, SMK, OGM, WMV, ASF, 3GP, 3G2.
I think this may help you out in getting started, there's actually a good amount of options under the hood:

DVD FLICK Guide - AVI to DVD, FLV to DVD, HDMOV to DVD, MKV to DVD, MJPG to DVD, MPG to DVD, M2V to DVD, MP4 to DVD, M4V to DVD, NSV to DVD, NUT to DVD, QT to DVD, MOV to DVD, RM to DVD, SMK to DVD, OGM to DVD, WMV to DVD, ASF to DVD, 3GP to DVD, 3G2

The only thing I've seen in different formats is the quality, the better the quality, the better the DVD will look for the most part.
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19 Jul 2010   #17
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Borg 386 View Post
Hey seekermeister,

Quote:
DVD Flick supports these video file types:
AVI, FLV, HDMOV, MKV, MJPG, MPG, M2V, MP4, M4V, NSV, NUT, QT, MOV, RM, SMK, OGM, WMV, ASF, 3GP, 3G2.
I think this may help you out in getting started, there's actually a good amount of options under the hood:

DVD FLICK Guide - AVI to DVD, FLV to DVD, HDMOV to DVD, MKV to DVD, MJPG to DVD, MPG to DVD, M2V to DVD, MP4 to DVD, M4V to DVD, NSV to DVD, NUT to DVD, QT to DVD, MOV to DVD, RM to DVD, SMK to DVD, OGM to DVD, WMV to DVD, ASF to DVD, 3GP to DVD, 3G2

The only thing I've seen in different formats is the quality, the better the quality, the better the DVD will look for the most part.
Yes, those lists do seem to cover the gambit, at least so far as I have considered. Your last statement seems to address my question, but without stating a preference. I guess that I will just have to experiment.
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19 Jul 2010   #18
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

Hey seekermeister,

Well, I really don't have a preference to any files. However, if I can get something in a higher quality, I usually do. But more then not, higher quality = bigger file size.

I know that if you burn, for instance, a .FLV file onto a DVD that the quality won't be all that great.

Most AVI files come out not bad looking, and indeed, most torrented movies are in AVI format, although that is changing with faster & faster net speeds.

It just depends on how much time & effort you want to put into something and how well you want it to look. To make a DVD movie out of a good movie file will consume a lot more processing/computer time then a low quality movie file.

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I guess that I will just have to experiment.
Yes, that's the key, in some cases. Just be aware that sometimes no matter what file format you choose, if there's problems with the file or it's poor quality, you're not going to be able to make anything good out of it.

Hope that helped you out some.
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19 Jul 2010   #19
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

That raises the question of when the source of the movie is Flash, and it is converted to a different format, will the end result be ~ the same as the source in terms of quality or is there an improvement? Also, if the source is in the standard full screen resolution, can it be reformatted to a wide screen resolution successfully?
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19 Jul 2010   #20
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Keep in mind that no matter what you do when converting video.. you can do some clean up.. but generally speaking.....

Garbage in = Garbage Out

Sometime,, it is Ok going in,, and degraded coming out...

Rarely ever,, Good going in Better coming out.

You can and will (most of the time) have sightly degraded video in conversion.
98% of the time, it is not noticeable. It really depends on what is be converted to what. (ie. AVI to MPG will not have noticeable degradation. FLV to AVI probably will.)

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can it be reformatted to a wide screen resolution successfully?
No, it will be stretched and squashed or have a black border.
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