Universal Video Format?

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  1. Posts : 7,781
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       #31

    That answers the question in my mind about FLVs...I will probably just keep them filed on the PC
    Yes, that I found out with various experimenting. They may look OK on a PC monitor, but put them on a TV & yipes!

    As Tepid said - Garbage in = Garbage Out

    I should warn you that Windows DVD maker has a bug they haven't resolved yet. Even if you select 16.9, it'll come out 4.3. There's a workaround with Win Live Movie maker, but it's basically a PIA.
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  2. Posts : 7,781
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       #32

    Most of you on this thread have had more experience in making & playing with vids & codecs, so I'd really appreciate it if someone could answer a question for me.

    I recently got a movie in AVI format that has over-modulated volume. The normal voices sound alright, but anytime there is music or loud voices, it's clearly blaring. From what I researched, I haven't found a way to correct that. Is there a way? My research into this so far points to "No,there is not."

    Thanx
    Last edited by Borg 386; 20 Jul 2010 at 08:49.
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  3. Posts : 1,403
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       #33

    Borg 386 said:
    Most of you on this thread have had more experience in making & playing with vids & codecs, so I'd really appreciate it if someone could answer a question for me.

    I recently got a movie in AVI format that has over-modulated volume. The normal voices sound alright, but anytime there is music or loud voices, it's clearly blaring. From what I researched, I haven't found a way to correct that. Is there a way? My research into this so far points to "No,there is not."

    Thanx

    The real answer is Maybe.

    You have to De-Mux the Video and Audio, Re-encode the audio to normalize it and then encode it back.

    This ain't quick and not exactly easy.
    I have not done this in a while,, so I am going off memory of things.
    There might be better tools I am not aware of now
    but, Get something like TMpeG editor to de-mux the video (i think it will de-mux avi)
    Then something like AC3 Machine to recode the audio and normalize it
    Then re-encode the movie back (i would just make it an mpeg) but you could re-do it to divx I suppose.

    The problem is, you will really need to learn each of these tools. I probably spent 100 hour or more learning what I know, and have forgotten a lot. Plus some things have changed.
    And, then end result if something goes wrong can be desynched audio with the video.

    You can use AViSynth and stuff, but then you have to learn how to write a script to do it.

    Honestly, if this is a movie you can buy, it would be easier buying it.

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  4. Posts : 92
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       #34

    One word...DIVX.
    (Ya..ya..I know divx is just an avi wrapper...but lets just set that aside...)

    Why?
    Dang near any player can handle it..(I use Media Player Classic - Home Cinema - Video Player )
    Plus...I have a couple of DVD STBs that natively play DIVX.
    No transcoding into VOBS needed.
    Just burn onto a disc..drop it in the player..and away you go.

    (I long a go gave up transcoding to VOBs ever since the first divx capable dvd players hit the shelves.)
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  5. whs
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       #35

    Borg 386 said:
    Most of you on this thread have had more experience in making & playing with vids & codecs, so I'd really appreciate it if someone could answer a question for me.

    I recently got a movie in AVI format that has over-modulated volume. The normal voices sound alright, but anytime there is music or loud voices, it's clearly blaring. From what I researched, I haven't found a way to correct that. Is there a way? My research into this so far points to "No,there is not."

    Thanx
    WLMM has an Audio Mix button (on the home tab). Maybe that can lower the volume. If the loud volume is only in certain sections of the movie, you may have to split the movie into these pieces and adjust the volume only for the selected pieces (if that is at all feasable). Once you save the movie starting at piece #1, it is all being put back together.
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  6. Posts : 7,781
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       #36

    Thanx Tepid & whs,

    If it's going to be that much of a pain, I think I'll just go with trying to find the movie to buy.

    Thanx again!
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  7. Posts : 4,517
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       #37

    One other option similar to what Tepid has suggested would be AFTEN AC3.

    Same basic method outlined above, except you can Recode the Audio and use the Normilization option with Aften, then re-mux.

    This method likely will not work as well, but may be easier.

    Most of the option to Normalize in software are 1 pass solutions and normally dont do a great job.

    Also, a tool like MeGUI, (Even if you do not want to learn AVIsynth scripts and encode atm) is a good call.
    It will include many great tools all in one package.
    You will still need to install AVISYNTH first however.
    X264 Encoder
    Muxers for MP4, AVI, MKV
    Audio Encoders for AC3 (Aften) MP3, and AAC (optionally the Nero AAC codec, I prefer this one myself)
    and many more

    YAMB is also a great tool for Demuxing AVI and MP4.
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  8. Posts : 1,403
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       #38

    split the movie into these pieces and adjust the volume only for the selected pieces (if that is at all feasable)
    Yes, this can be done. Very time consuming process.
    This is where you run the highest risk of re-coding out of synch with audio and video

    Honestly, unless it's a home movie, or something really rare (and in that case I would say leave it and deal with it through EQ), while you will learn something in the process,, it's really not worth the effort for commercial stuff.
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  9. Posts : 7,781
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       #39

    Thanx everyone,

    I'll go with trying to find it on DVD, although....I might play around with it a bit as some of you suggested with various software. You can never have enough experience at playing around with various software, can you?
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  10. Posts : 5,440
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       #40

    Hi Borg
    If you are going to play around may I suggest you download the TBYB* copy of Corel Video Studio x3. You will have 30 days to play and that program has the advantage that you can put the video into the timeline, set it to show "Audio View" Then you can see where the loud sound is, use a feature called rubber banding and reduce the offending part of the sound without splitting the sound from the vision thereby avoiding any out of sync problems. Is a fairly quick and easy answer to your problem, plus you could do the job for free with just one program. Just uninstall the program afterwards if you don't need it for anything else.
    I use it a lot and find it very versatile. Happy to assist you with it if necessary, PM me if you wish in case I miss the Post here.

    *Try before you buy!
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