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Windows 7: High FPS = High Ping in games (solution anyone?)

08 Jun 2009   #11
hfxcluke

Windows 7 RC1 (x64)
 
 

I Agree, the CPU Usage doesn't top 20% while in game, nor memory usage.
I'm convinced it something thats changed in the networking of Win7. Its just finding out what.


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03 Jul 2009   #12
Everett

Windows 7 64bit (Heaven)
 
 

Not really sure... BUt just to put it out there.. make sure your LAN/WAN device is setup with a set IP/DNS, and that your firewall rules are manually set with the games ports all open. I have a constant 50ms with a 95fps, my ISP (rogers) is rediculiously fast tho. I havent run into to many problems with Win7 (thank god vista BLEW) but i am sure there are some out there.. Bios and network drivers might help to. (go ahead someone tell me Bios wont effect it.... i dare ya)


anyways, try doing a speed test.. directed at the server City that was you can see whatt your DL/UL is.


I based my first write up on WOW my appologise.. had to correct some spots
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06 Jul 2009   #13
huldu

Windows XP
 
 

I can confirm the ping is really horrible in Windows 7 when playing games. In command prompt its identical to windows xp so that is not the problem. On windows xp i get 5-10 ping on a server i always play on in tf2. Most servers in the list show a ping of 5-20 where the tops are around 50-80. I installed windows 7 a few days ago and the result is pretty horrible. Running win7 i get about 40-50 ping on a few servers where the rest are 80+. Playing on the server i always play on in tf2 i get 25-40 ping in win7. What the hell is wrong with the OS? I was so surprised i had to reinstall winxp just to be sure. The ping showed as 5-6 in winxp. I know for sure i wont be switching to win7 if that problem stays that is for sure. I went through build 7100 and 7264, both had the exact same ping problem.
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07 Jul 2009   #14
DarkXeno

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I have a few question to ask and lets see where we get with the info.
I myself have noticed I get better pings and fps in windows 7 on css and tf2.

My questions, what is your NIC?
Do you have a router?
Does the router have the latest firmware?
If you have a router does it support IPv6?
Does the router have UPnP support?
(I know people hate having UPnP i don't know why tho)
Do you have all updated drivers for your hardware?
I have been seeing sound drivers cause some odd issues with steam games like low fps and high pings on some machine not all.
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07 Jul 2009   #15
huldu

Windows XP
 
 

Well i wouldnt even be here if i had the same problem in windows xp Checked again just to be sure i was seeing things. Logged on to a server in win7, ping was around 30-35. Reinstalled winxp logged into the same server and ping is 5-6. Now the funny thing is the ping is *identical* in winxp/win7 when doing a normal ping. This appears to be limited to games, of course it could be anything really but you only notice it in games. I have a realtek.

The drivers i got from win7 update. I do not use a router. I did have problems installing the drivers for my soundcard(sb live 5.1) but i fixed it by running the install in winxp compatibility mode and it worked great. My soundcard wont even run without those drivers, the card is from 2002. Tho with the drivers it works flawless, just glad i fixed that rather easy in win7. The ping issue is unresolved and i have no solution to the problem or what could be the cause.

My guess is changing NIC might work i have quite a few to pick from, but its such a fuss to reinstall win7/winxp all the time(lol). I will do it once i have time. My rig: 2.5ghz(single core), 1.5gb ram, x1650 agp(flashed from asus=>sapphire, if you know asus x1650 you know why).

<edit> Had to turn on scripts for this site, apparently it wont keep the rows... talk about wall of text.
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02 Oct 2009   #16
5150

Win 7 RC 7100
 
 
Allocating CPU

Hmmph,
How would you allocate cpu... I like the thought.

I seem to have troubles also,but I've just learned to deal with it.. and get owned by connections but I know deep down inside something is wrong
Check this out my daughter is 3 feet from me on a similar machine and has 1/2 the ping as I do playing left 4 dead (FPS)... Even when she isnt on, lets say my ping is 130ish in a usa server, then she joins her ping is 60ish this seems to be in all the FPS games we play online and it isnt a matter of both useing the same pipe either I've determined that.

Now I allocated the CPU in microsoft FSX flight sim in the FSX.cfg itself and made a great improvement but no online stuff other that casual flying and weather. Would be nice to find a solution. Mike
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03 Oct 2009   #17
mighty

Windows 7 professional 32 bit
 
 

hi hfxcluke,

Im not here to solve your problem ! sorry ! but to join with you in saying WTF WINDOWS 7 !!!

I have exactly the same problem, even same game Counter strike source.

last week using Win_xp ping ~30-40ms ! ... now with Win_7 ping ~80+

I agree with you, they have changed something in networking and unfortunately it has made us "gamers" suffer ! ... if it isnt solved soon, im heading back to xp..

and for everyone out there... it is not a driver problem, it isnt a router problem,... if the exact same game, modem, PC ran a game at 20ms with XP than at 80+ms with Win7... the issue is WIN7 ... I have ran multiple softwares confirming i have all the latest WIN& drivers.. so it is not a driver problem...

Hope someone can figure this out.. or Windows 7 will lose many customers !!! the ONLINE GAMERS !

.. cheers
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04 Oct 2009   #18
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mighty View Post
and for everyone out there... it is not a driver problem, it isnt a router problem,... if the exact same game, modem, PC ran a game at 20ms with XP than at 80+ms with Win7... the issue is WIN7 ... I have ran multiple softwares confirming i have all the latest WIN& drivers.. so it is not a driver problem...
The latest driver doesn't mean it is the latest for Windows 7, or optimized for. Sadly most optimized fore Windows 7 drivers will probably not be out until after release.
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04 Oct 2009   #19
mighty

Windows 7 professional 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mighty View Post
and for everyone out there... it is not a driver problem, it isnt a router problem,... if the exact same game, modem, PC ran a game at 20ms with XP than at 80+ms with Win7... the issue is WIN7 ... I have ran multiple softwares confirming i have all the latest WIN& drivers.. so it is not a driver problem...
The latest driver doesn't mean it is the latest for Windows 7, or optimized for. Sadly most optimized fore Windows 7 drivers will probably not be out until after release.
ok ok .. i realise that windows 7 has some bugs in it .. and what you really should do is give a new OS about one year before you use it.. you are right about the drivers i guess.. but the ones i used were all windows 7 drivers.. e.g. Gigabyte Mobo's have released there Windows 7 drivers.. and im not the only one having this issue.. there are hundreds of people complaing and filling the forums with ONLINE game LAG...
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07 Oct 2009   #20
ashton

Windows 7
 
 

I agree with all you guys. All we can do is wait. It look like no one that works in the Microsoft tech website wants to comment on this issue. I have even emailed a tech I met at the 7 break out event and he responded like a deer in the road blind. I sent him all the urls and comments from all over to see if he could find out something. So far 3 days later no answer from him. Its sad because we are not the silent majority that will be buying this. I also read somewhere that this issue could delay the release. I doubt that. SAD
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