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Windows 7: Win7 RC Unidentified Network

23 Jun 2009   #1
Renzokucant

Windows 7 x64
 
 
Win7 RC Unidentified Network

hello all, i'm new to the forums here because i'm having a baffling problem i just can't seem to fix. i recently was using Windows 7 beta and about 2 days ago i switched over and did a clean install of Win7RC. after about a day or 2 of no problems all of a sudden i have an "!" over my network connection and i can't get on the net. I cant even access my router when typing in the IP in the address bar. im currently on my laptop and its working fine. here's what i have done so far.

1. tried uninstalling some programs that i installed after i got win7rc, un installed avira, also disabled windows defender and unplugged my connection and plugged it back in, still no go.
2. restarted my computer,, after doint this the connection was fine, but i went to work and came back and it was having the same trouble again. i just restarted my computer now and it's working fine but im sure it will revert in a few short hours. i cant explain why.
3. i looked for this "bonjour" program people are talking about but couldnt find it, not even too sure where to look, or what it is.

i have a netgear router im using brighthouse.
i went to the cmd and typed in ipconfig /all not sure if this will be any use but
windows IP configuration
IP routing enabled..... no
Wins proxy enabled.....no
node type ... hybrid

theres alot more there, one says ethernet adapter local area connection:
i assume thats what is important here's an interesting note. at one point it says,
Lease Obtained..........." Tuesday, june 23, 2009
Lease expires............: wednesday, june 24, 2009
not sure what this means.
autoconfiguration is enabled

it shows 3 tunnel adapter sections

any help would be appreciated


oh and also, under properties of local area connection, internet protocol v6 and v4 are checked and both are set to obtain address automatically


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23 Jun 2009   #2
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 
Win 7 networking

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Renzokucant View Post
hello all, i'm new to the forums here because i'm having a baffling problem i just can't seem to fix. i recently was using Windows 7 beta and about 2 days ago i switched over and did a clean install of Win7RC. after about a day or 2 of no problems all of a sudden i have an "!" over my network connection and i can't get on the net. I cant even access my router when typing in the IP in the address bar. im currently on my laptop and its working fine. here's what i have done so far.

1. tried uninstalling some programs that i installed after i got win7rc, un installed avira, also disabled windows defender and unplugged my connection and plugged it back in, still no go.
2. restarted my computer,, after doint this the connection was fine, but i went to work and came back and it was having the same trouble again. i just restarted my computer now and it's working fine but im sure it will revert in a few short hours. i cant explain why.
3. i looked for this "bonjour" program people are talking about but couldnt find it, not even too sure where to look, or what it is.

i have a netgear router im using brighthouse.
i went to the cmd and typed in ipconfig /all not sure if this will be any use but
windows IP configuration
IP routing enabled..... no
Wins proxy enabled.....no
node type ... hybrid

theres alot more there, one says ethernet adapter local area connection:
i assume thats what is important here's an interesting note. at one point it says,
Lease Obtained..........." Tuesday, june 23, 2009
Lease expires............: wednesday, june 24, 2009
not sure what this means.
autoconfiguration is enabled

it shows 3 tunnel adapter sections

any help would be appreciated
Hi and welcome to SF

Im hoping this is an easy one. I wonder if you have re-booted the computer and the router.
That should help the lease expires note

Lets try thata first then we can delve into it more

Hope this helps

Ken
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23 Jun 2009   #3
Renzokucant

Windows 7 x64
 
 

yes i unplugged my router yesterday for at least 10 seconds, plugged it back in. did the same with the power in the modem. the unidentified message never went away but i never checked the ipconfig, but restarting my computer before work fixed the solution, but when i got back it was back to square 1 for me.
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23 Jun 2009   #4
Renzokucant

Windows 7 x64
 
 

ok i restarted my computer and got net access again, but like yesterday im assuming its going to mess up again, but while i have net access i just went to my device manager and checked for updates for both network adapters that were shown.
one was
marvell yukon 88e8053 pci-e gigabit ethernet controller
and the other wich im pretty sure is the one i have always been using is
realtek rtl8169/8110 family pci gigabit ethernet nic (Ndis 6.20)
the marvel didnt have an update available but the realtek did and i downloaded it, so now i guess only time will tell if that was a solution or not?
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23 Jun 2009   #5
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 
networking prob

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Renzokucant View Post
ok i restarted my computer and got net access again, but like yesterday im assuming its going to mess up again, but while i have net access i just went to my device manager and checked for updates for both network adapters that were shown.
one was
marvell yukon 88e8053 pci-e gigabit ethernet controller
and the other wich im pretty sure is the one i have always been using is
realtek rtl8169/8110 family pci gigabit ethernet nic (Ndis 6.20)
the marvel didnt have an update available but the realtek did and i downloaded it, so now i guess only time will tell if that was a solution or not?
Have you looked in event viewer?
It may have either a warning or stop listed. I still have a feeling that this is going to be fairly easy
I have subscribed to this thread so I will get email every post let me know how its going

Ken
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23 Jun 2009   #6
Renzokucant

Windows 7 x64
 
 

i get that feeling too, so far the last 3 problems i have had me and my friend have been over thinking them and they were really simple fixes. but what is the event viewer and how can i find it so i can check that?
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23 Jun 2009   #7
Renzokucant

Windows 7 x64
 
 

nevermind i found it, there is 1 error that has occured in the last 24 hours as well as in the last hour.
its event id 1002 Dhcp-Client
in the last 24 hours there were 7 errors
id 1001 Dhcp-Client
hope that helps some

1 error for windows update client


197 events in total

vss warnings
user profile warnings
msiInstaller errors (the most)
few disk errors and application errors
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23 Jun 2009   #8
srq2625

Win7 Ultimate, x64
 
 

That first error (1002) is indicating an IP address conflict, meaning (I believe) two or more computers (one of them being the one that is dropping off the network) are attempting to use the same IP address.

As a first shot I would do what I could to make the answers to the following questions "Yes".
  • Is your router acting as a DHCP server for your internal network?
  • Are all your computers on the router accepting dynamically assigned IP addresses?
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23 Jun 2009   #9
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 
event viewer log

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Renzokucant View Post
ok i restarted my computer and got net access again, but like yesterday im assuming its going to mess up again, but while i have net access i just went to my device manager and checked for updates for both network adapters that were shown.
one was
marvell yukon 88e8053 pci-e gigabit ethernet controller
and the other wich im pretty sure is the one i have always been using is
realtek rtl8169/8110 family pci gigabit ethernet nic (Ndis 6.20)
the marvel didnt have an update available but the realtek did and i downloaded it, so now i guess only time will tell if that was a solution or not?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Renzokucant View Post
nevermind i found it, there is 1 error that has occured in the last 24 hours as well as in the last hour.
its event id 1002 Dhcp-Client
in the last 24 hours there were 7 errors
id 1001 Dhcp-Client
hope that helps some

1 error for windows update client


197 events in total

vss warnings
user profile warnings
msiInstaller errors (the most)
few disk errors and application errors
Ok I searched both event id error on msn and found this
Event ID 1000 and 1001 Repeat Every 5 Minutes in the Event Log
Does your ISP supply dhcp for you? (do you have to logon w/ uid and pword)
when working if you run ipconfig what ip do you get for the computer
It might be a default setting in router.
Other thoughts to come

Hope this is helping

Ken
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23 Jun 2009   #10
Renzokucant

Windows 7 x64
 
 

ohhhh kay, this might help you guys alot.
my IP for my computer is .1.2
my gf's laptop that im using is .1.3
my ps3 is .1.50

now the netgear router is what my computer is plugged into and her computer has a wireless card for the router.
now
we setup passwords for the router enabling the SSID because her laptop card is stupid and couldnt find the SSID when it was hidden even though i typed it in there for it to find. so we set up a i believe it is a WEP key the router, i manually inserted that key into her laptop which might explain why she has net on this laptop and i dont, because i downloaded the windows 7 RC days after we setup this WEP key for the computers. im not sure how that would effect my computer tho because im not trying to connect wirelessly.. but it was just a thought

as far as dhcp is concerned, no i dont have to log on with any passwords to get internet access. always been plug n play for me
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