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Windows 7: Windows 7, hub, dsl modem.....no internet access

08 Apr 2011   #31
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by plumbers crack View Post
Wouldn't just having his comp plugged into the hub with nothing else work? The net book that I tried has never been on this system and it went online no problems.
It might work all by itself if you also power cycle the Modem. I not convinced all the IP addresses are used up, but you may as well confirm it one way or the other before moving on.


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09 Apr 2011   #32
plumbers crack

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

Power cycled the modem a few times and nada. I call the isp and they said that running 4-5 comps isn't a problem, there blaming the hub.

I'm going to give a switch a try first, than a router if that doesn't work.

I'll keep posted with what happens, any other idea's from you guy/gal post them up.
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09 Apr 2011   #33
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

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09 Apr 2011   #34
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by plumbers crack View Post
Power cycled the modem a few times and nada. I call the isp and they said that running 4-5 comps isn't a problem, there blaming the hub.

I'm going to give a switch a try first, than a router if that doesn't work.

I'll keep posted with what happens, any other idea's from you guy/gal post them up.
No other ideas. I'm stumped. HUB who still uses a HUB?
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09 Apr 2011   #35
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Shootist View Post
HUB who still uses a HUB?
Most people that know the difference between a hub and a switch probably wouldn't use one. But if say somebody gave it to you, and it was all you had, you might try using it to maybe save a few bucks. If you only had say 2 PC's connected it would likely work OK. Get 4 or more active all at the same time and I would think things would start going down hill fast.
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09 Apr 2011   #36
Ryan2320

Windows Seven x64
 
 

My final guess would be the PC, but you said earlier that if you connect to the router/modem it works..Hmmm

Issue a ping in command prompt of 127.0.0.1 this just tests the TCP/IP software. (It should work it not let us know)

I would also try a switch, as it might the hub.

Ryan
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09 Apr 2011   #37
plumbers crack

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

Well, the hub was the problem. I guess that I should have taken my self out of the 90's sooner. I went out today and bought a D-Link router, way better than the last router that just screwed with me all the time and changed it's own setting, that's why I stayed with the hub. Everything is working great. Still don't understand why the hub stopped working after 2 month of the comp running on it.

Just a side question while I have every one's attention, my isp is or was PPPoE, should I leave the router set up DHCP or switch it to the PPPoE? Everything is working with DHCP right now.

Thanks for all the help guy/gals, I definitely learned a few things.

Cheers
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09 Apr 2011   #38
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Well depends on how your ISP is.. do you still have to dial into your internet when using DSL? If you do, you can change the WAN settings to PPoE and put in your user name and passwords and the router will keep your internet connection alive.

If you are like Centurylink.. they just push an ip address to my DSL device and I have it bridged right into my router. So the router automatically takes the IP address from the DSL modem using DHCP service. Just all depends.
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09 Apr 2011   #39
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by plumbers crack View Post
Well, the hub was the problem. I guess that I should have taken my self out of the 90's sooner. I went out today and bought a D-Link router, way better than the last router that just screwed with me all the time and changed it's own setting, that's why I stayed with the hub. Everything is working great. Still don't understand why the hub stopped working after 2 month of the comp running on it.

Just a side question while I have every one's attention, my isp is or was PPPoE, should I leave the router set up DHCP or switch it to the PPPoE? Everything is working with DHCP right now.

Thanks for all the help guy/gals, I definitely learned a few things.

Cheers
What you should do, and you REALLY NEED TO DO THIS, is set the modem to Bridged Ethernet and use the router to do the PPPoE logon and it will then get a public IP on the WAN port and had out IP addresses to the PCs connected to it in the private range.
Having the modem also being a router and then putting another router in between that and the PC can cause problems. You are now doing double NAT. That is not good.

Yeah if you look at the routers WAN IP it will be in the private range, 192.168.x.x and more then likely it is handing out IPs in the same/similar range, 192.168.x.x. That can and will cause problems.
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09 Apr 2011   #40
plumbers crack

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

Done. Thanks for that, probably would have been back trying to sort those issues.

Hopefully that's it for a while. Now on to sorting out MLPPP so I can get around the Canadian isp's throttling and get what I pay for.
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