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Windows 7: Network problems

02 Aug 2009   #11
visy199

XP SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
vissy

Im thinking you have a workgroup called mshome (on xp) and a homegroup called mshome ( on win 7). They are different. you can change the homegroup to a workgroup. open hetwork and sharing and either create a new connection using the workplace instead of homegroup or click on your existing homegroup and change it to workplace.

Ken
I switched to Work network and see on screenshot what says on homegroup!

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Are both computers in the same workgroup (look on the xp box)?

Ken
Watch the screenshots!




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03 Aug 2009   #12
visy199

XP SP2
 
 

Other suggestions?
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03 Aug 2009   #13
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

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Other suggestions?
visy

From the looks of it. Seven and xp are shared correctly and you can access files one way. I wonder if it could be the AV (KIS) or is there something else Im Missing. Anybody Have ideas?

Ken
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03 Aug 2009   #14
visy199

XP SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
visy

From the looks of it. Seven and xp are shared correctly and you can access files one way. I wonder if it could be the AV (KIS) or is there something else Im Missing. Anybody Have ideas?

Ken
Thanks for your help but still don't work properly!
I disabled KIS on seven and on XP i disabled Avira firewall!
I can access Seven machine files from Xp machine,when I try from Seven machine i can see now XP machine but it gives me error when i try to access files,watch the screenshot!

Like zigzag says:
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Anybody Have ideas?


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03 Aug 2009   #15
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by visy199 View Post
Thanks for your help but still don't work properly!
I disabled KIS on seven and on XP i disabled Avira firewall!
I can access Seven machine files from Xp machine,when I try from Seven machine i can see now XP machine but it gives me error when i try to access files,watch the screenshot!

Like zigzag says:
Hey visy

that same error code was cured in the vista64 forums here error 0x80070035 - Vista Forums

It is a permissions error. If all else fails set all the permissions back to default and try it again

Ken
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03 Aug 2009   #16
visy199

XP SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Hey visy

that same error code was cured in the vista64 forums here error 0x80070035 - Vista Forums

It is a permissions error. If all else fails set all the permissions back to default and try it again

Ken
How to switch them to default?
First time when i installed Seven Build 7600 network worked well but i think my brother messed things up but i don't know what!
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03 Aug 2009   #17
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by visy199 View Post
How to switch them to default?
First time when i installed Seven Build 7600 network worked well but i think my brother messed things up but i don't know what!
visy

The easiest way to make sure they are reset back to default is frankly to re-install clean. Im sure you could work thru the perms' and reset them back but you might just miss one or two and they still might not work.

Ken
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03 Aug 2009   #18
visy199

XP SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
visy

The easiest way to make sure they are reset back to default is frankly to re-install clean. Im sure you could work thru the perms' and reset them back but you might just miss one or two and they still might not work.

Ken
I can't do that,i will take long time to reinstall all my programs,drivers and other stuff!
If it's nothing i can do i will my usb stick to transfer files from XP to Seven!

Thanks for support!
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04 Aug 2009   #19
visy199

XP SP2
 
 

I fixed the problem thanks to squonksc,you're amazing!
The problem was TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service,it was disabled,just enable that service on both machines and everything will work fine!
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04 Aug 2009   #20
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by visy199 View Post
I fixed the problem thanks to squonksc,you're amazing!
The problem was TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service,it was disabled,just enable that service on both machines and everything will work fine!
Have to add to this, that setting the right permissions on the disks and shares is also important.
Also setting passwords on each computer account is vital.

The easiest way is to set permissions is on the whole partition.
Then all folders and subfolders will carry the same permissions.

I also want to point out the difference between share permissions and security permissons.

Best practice for shares is to set to everyone and full permissions.
This will in no way affect the actual files and folders, only the share itself.

In the security tab you set the permissions for the actual folders and files.

If you don't want people in your network to accidently edit or delete the folders or files, set the permissions to "read and execute", "show content" and "read", but not "write" and "full permission".

If you yourself want to be able to edit or delete files and folders in the share,
but not the other users, you will have to create an account for each individual or for a group which is more practical.

You can set permissions per account or per group, and you can make the proper exceptions at folder level.

This will save you the hassle of setting the permissions per folder which can take forever.

NTFS security is a vast and complicated matter.

If people are interested I might be inclined to write a tutorial on it.
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