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Windows 7: xbox one connection

26 Dec 2016   #31
drmax

W7 premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Are you trying to stop your child from using the xBox online completely?

If so then following the options in my first post will do this without any issue
Yes I am. He has no idea what I have reset the password too, which I already reset.
If I do the following...
  • change the SSID of the router wireless
  • Set a strong Pass Phrase on the wireless SSID
  • set the router to not broadcast it's SSID
Will any of those 3 steps mess up any of our iPhones or iPad, or internet TV's, etc?


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26 Dec 2016   #32
chitownbob

windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
sorry for all the posts, but my mind is working. wondering if, since the xbox one was purchased 2nd hand online, that it may have been compromised, as to why it was showing a different mac address, or the unit is somehow circumventing the router, or not showing its true detail?
MAC address lookup shows following (good that it cant locate IP, since it is behind firewall)

MAC-Addr IP-Addr Vendor
4C-0B-BE-73-51-0B Microsoft, USA

This indicates a microsoft product like xbox.
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26 Dec 2016   #33
chitownbob

windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
**I have verified that the xbox one that is in the list, is the device when turning on and off...but the mac address differs from the one listed, as opposed to the one that showed up in the firewall log. Perhaps the one that showed up in the firewall log was a mac address, trying to get into my system, as in from outside?** If that is what that firewall log represents, then this is not the mac address I was hoping for. The IP address appears to be random, now when I ck the status. ugh**
You have DHCP enabled. So it can be a random IP.
Try reserving an IP address to the MAC, but make sure it is not in use at the time.
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26 Dec 2016   #34
chitownbob

windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
By reading apparently the MAC address can be spoofed or changed within the console. If this is the case then the user can continually changed this address to allow function of Xbox one, rendering my efforts to lock this unit, useless. Unless there is another work around for me. I mean, my kid isn't dumb. Lol! Now, if the way to do this, is to set a fixed IP address, rather than xbox using a random address? This is a little over my head, but I need to figure this out.
That is more of an admin function. You are admin.
I would think you would be able to lock non-admins out of that function.
BTW.....If you can.....change the password IN the xbox for your SSID so it cannot auto log in. Then lock this functionality from non-admins. Do you have a GUEST network set up? You may need to lock him from that too. Without knowing what router you have I cannot advise how.
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26 Dec 2016   #35
drmax

W7 premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chitownbob View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
By reading apparently the MAC address can be spoofed or changed within the console. If this is the case then the user can continually changed this address to allow function of Xbox one, rendering my efforts to lock this unit, useless. Unless there is another work around for me. I mean, my kid isn't dumb. Lol! Now, if the way to do this, is to set a fixed IP address, rather than xbox using a random address? This is a little over my head, but I need to figure this out.
That is more of an admin function. You are admin.
I would think you would be able to lock non-admins out of that function.
BTW.....If you can.....change the password IN the xbox for your SSID so it cannot auto log in. Then lock this functionality from non-admins. Do you have a GUEST network set up? You may need to lock him from that too. Without knowing what router you have I cannot advise how.
at&t pace 5268ac
The guess access code, was the password on the side of the router. I have since changed that password. He does not know it. I am not well versed in any of this. Just good at shutting something on and off. This is racking my brain. Wonder if he is possibly getting a signal out of the house, like a neighbor?
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26 Dec 2016   #36
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Are you trying to stop your child from using the xBox online completely?

If so then following the options in my first post will do this without any issue
Yes I am. He has no idea what I have reset the password too, which I already reset.
If I do the following...
  • change the SSID of the router wireless
  • Set a strong Pass Phrase on the wireless SSID
  • set the router to not broadcast it's SSID
Will any of those 3 steps mess up any of our iPhones or iPad, or internet TV's, etc?

The new SSID and the password would need to be re-entered in the devices to allow them access, but should not be an issue. I'm not sure if the Apple devices are able to connect to a hidden SSID so I would not try that.

At the moment you have protected the router from access but not actually changed the SSID or it's password so the xBox will just connect as always. Once these are changed the xbox should refuse to connect ( or more precisely the router would refuse access)
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26 Dec 2016   #37
chitownbob

windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
......... Wonder if he is possibly getting a signal out of the house, like a neighbor?
I sincerely doubt it. They are probably locked and the signal may be too weak....but you can check. If you have an android, download wifi analyzer to your phone. It will show signals and strengths that are available.

I know you think your kid is not the techy buy google is a junior hackers dream. He may have a friend or online friend that is giving him hints on how to defeat the system. Suggest you watch him while he plays but dont be too observant.

Is his phone acting as wifi hotspot? They can. This could mean that traffic could be going from xbox to phone to router to internet. But if you shut that down, traffic could go from xbox to phone to cellular network (expensive!) to internet. What is your data plan like?

It sounds like you are trying to do this the tricky way. Perhaps it might be best to talk to him/her and tell them what is your expectations. No online access. Otherwise, take xbox away. Its uncomfortable but its part of being a parent.
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26 Dec 2016   #38
drmax

W7 premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chitownbob View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
......... Wonder if he is possibly getting a signal out of the house, like a neighbor?
I sincerely doubt it. They are probably locked and the signal may be too weak....but you can check. If you have an android, download wifi analyzer to your phone. It will show signals and strengths that are available.

I know you think your kid is not the techy buy google is a junior hackers dream. He may have a friend or online friend that is giving him hints on how to defeat the system. Suggest you watch him while he plays but dont be too observant.

Is his phone acting as wifi hotspot? They can. This could mean that traffic could be going from xbox to phone to router to internet. But if you shut that down, traffic could go from xbox to phone to cellular network (expensive!) to internet. What is your data plan like?

It sounds like you are trying to do this the tricky way. Perhaps it might be best to talk to him/her and tell them what is your expectations. No online access. Otherwise, take xbox away. Its uncomfortable but its part of being a parent.
I know the parent deal. Trying to be one up on the situation. Yes the iPhone could be used as a hotspot but that phone was off during this.
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26 Dec 2016   #39
Eric3742

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drmax View Post
sorry for all the posts, but my mind is working. wondering if, since the xbox one was purchased 2nd hand online, that it may have been compromised, as to why it was showing a different mac address, or the unit is somehow circumventing the router, or not showing its true detail?

Your kid can change the MAC id, just google.

Refer to this link:

Getting Your MAC Address: Xbox 360 - GROK Knowledge Base



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26 Dec 2016   #40
Eric3742

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Hi drmax

There is solution on this matter, of all the place is in Xbox website.

Xbox One

Do read and select the option that suit you.

Basically, you need to do Family setting (do include yourself &or spouse &or whoever when you are not around as Administrator ) and Timing allow for the child to use and play, as a reward.

Quote:
Family setting
How do you get rid of parental control on Xbox one?
How a parent can change the privacy and online safety settings for a child account. ...
Add a new member to your family on Xbox One. ...
Grant an exception to your child's content limits on Xbox One. ...
Remove an account from an Xbox One console. ...
Promote a child account to an adult account on Xbox One.
Quote:
How do I set time limits on Xbox one?
To set the Family Timer
On your console, go to Settings, and then select Family.
Select On to turn on Console Safety.
Enter a 4-button pass code using your controller.
Select Family Timer.
Select whether you want to set a Daily or Weekly timer.

Router wifi is rather weak.
I did asked DLink technician on about wireless security.
He mentioned on hiding the wifi SSID, in setting in the router, by not display.
But there is an warning to take note.
That is if you forget the SSID, you may unable to log in.
Of course, there is a need to have an administrator login with the password secure.

Hence, i conclude that router setting is rather weak.
Even Parent Control is limited.


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