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Windows 7: Windows 7 fails to remember WiFi Networks

17 Mar 2019   #1
lamboom

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 
Windows 7 fails to remember WiFi Networks

If I create a list of wifi networks, or log on to a new network, my Dell 6410 will add that Network to the list, This makes it possible to select, and connect to any networks on the list, without having to re-enter the password or key.

I have a newly refurbished Dell 6430, running Windows 7, which allows me manually to create a Network list. The first time I connect to one of the networks on that new list, the connection is made. Unfortunately, all of the other networks on the list go away, and only the selected network remains. WHAT! The entire "list" is not remembered. Only One network is remembered, the one presently connected. As the list no longer has past networks, every attempt to connect to a different local network from the "networks available" window requires the key being reentered ... This gives the "illusion" of WiFi Keys not being remembered. When in fact, the network itself is not remembered. This subject is often discussed in Forums: "Win 7 won't remember wireless network key". Their solutions didn't work for me... sniff..


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18 Mar 2019   #2
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

since its refurbished the previous user may have some modified Group Policy settings. To check, do start > run > gpedit.msc > enter, then click on All Settings under BOTH computer configuration and user configuration, then click the State column. Anything other than Not Configured may be your issue. Most Group Policy settings are self-explanatory. There are several Policies commonly modified by employers to limit employee access to unknown networks, etc.


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18 Mar 2019   #3
lamboom

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Thanks for the quick reply johnhoh-


All was "Not Configured" in both Computer & User Settings. This computer had it's SSD cloned from the company's master, There may be a conflict with the wireless adapter. Referring to a "solution" about this relatively common problem, from another forum where the problem was defined as "Win 7 won't remember wireless network key"


A solution written by Smoove910 wrote the following



"open search, type "services.msc" open services.
Scroll down to "wlan auto config" right click, stop the service.

Navigate to
"C: \ProgramData\Microsoft\Wlansvc\ delete everything in this folder leaving only a folder called "profiles" delete everything in the "profiles" folder except for a folder called "interfaces" delete everything in the "interfaces" folder)

Restart "wlan auto config" connect to your wireless network, enter
your passkey, (ensure the connect automaticly box is checked)

Restart your computer job done, your computer will now connect to your wireless network automaticly on boot."


Now this worked for some .. but not me. Aparently, a person (same forum, same problem) did this:

"Went though Smoove910's instructions again, AND uninstalled the wireless adapter's software. Rebooted and this time only installed the adapters driver, not the other software junk. I think there was a software conflict because now the system remembers the password." Problem solved


If there is a software problem here ... I don't really know how to implement what the second person is saying. Does this make any sence to you?
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18 Mar 2019   #4
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lamboom View Post
"Went though Smoove910's instructions again, AND uninstalled the wireless adapter's software. Rebooted and this time only installed the adapters driver, not the other software junk. I think there was a software conflict because now the system remembers the password." Problem solved
Smoove910 is basically saying lets erase everything that might be a problem so the system starts over. I agree with that.

Then the next guy is saying yeah but there is also wireless software that needs to be removed. By that he means go into start > run > appwiz.cpl > and look for anything that looks like a wireless software package, then uninstall it. That also sounds like a good idea.

Be sure to download a fresh driver for your adapter and put it on your desktop. Devicehunt is good for this and usually they have a copy of your driver, or just use devicehunt to identify exactly what your device is and then download the driver elsewhere, like your motherboard manufacturer support page. If you are given the option of just installing the driver or installing the driver plus extra utility software, install just the driver. This can also be done manually if needed but I won't go into it now. Don't install it until the end of the steps in this post though.

https://devicehunt.com/

Then to erase even more potential troublemakers, use Uwe's Device Cleanup Tool to detect and erase ALL drivers of non-present hardware. This tool will ONLY erase drivers of devices your system does not have installed, so your current, needed drivers will remain intact.

https://www.uwe-sieber.de/misc_tools_e.html

After that, do start > run > devmgmt.msc, find your adapter, right click on it and uninstall it, AND say YES when it asks you "do you want to also delete the software for this device?"

At this point you will have deleted everything I can think of that might be the culprit here, so you can then click on the wireless driver package you downloaded from devicehunt or your motherboard site to install a fresh driver.
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19 Mar 2019   #5
lamboom

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Johnhoh That's a fine list of things to undertake. I understand. You have a gift for detail so necessary in this work. Often When I read "solutions" I find myself staring into space. With yours, I feel enlightened.


Will let you know how this works out. Have just obtained a series of new problems not related to the computer .. might take a few days..



Best Regards, Michael
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20 Mar 2019   #6
lamboom

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Hi johnhoh

There are two devices that manage WiFi on his Dell PC. One is Windows, the other is something called: WiFi Connection Utility: Intel PROSet/Wireless. There is a way to let Windows manage WiFi by selecting that option from The Intel PROSet window. This deselects PROSet, and allows Windows to run network connections. I did that and the problem went away .. All Fixed! Windows remembers my networks, and I don't have to re-enter the login key every time I change networks.

Going back to "Enable WiFi Control" in the Intel PROSet window .. the problem returns ... It looks like Windows is still active in it's control. They are both "on" ?

In fact when I deactivat PROSet, all the networks return to the Windows list of networks.. And WiFi is working fine.

Am I missing some "off switch" for Windows WiFi controll... like there is for PROSet ..should I want to have PROSet on, and managing WiFi Connections?
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20 Mar 2019   #7
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lamboom View Post
Am I missing some "off switch" for Windows WiFi controll... like there is for PROSet ..should I want to have PROSet on, and managing WiFi Connections?
That seems reasonable. Sounds like you prefer to use intel proset instead of windows. I would first download the current intel proset software, as a fresh install may fix the issue all by itself. You could also go into start >run > msconfig > services and uncheck WLAN Autoconfig and then reboot. That service is what windows uses to discover and connect to wifi networks so unchecking might be the way to turn it off.
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20 Mar 2019   #8
lamboom

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Thanks for the info... tried it... (Uncheck WLAN Autoconfig) Didn't work, after reboot there was no wifi networks. Looks like the only thing that works so far is to disable Iintel PROSet/Wireless .. One wonders why anyone would want to us it when windows does just fine.
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20 Mar 2019   #9
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

found a few more ideas:

1) Disable the Intel PROset/Wireless software (set it to let Windows manage the wireless connection).
2) Go to the C:\Documents and Settings\<user name> folder and delete the profile.enc and profile.enc.bak files.
3) Enable the Intel PROset/Wireless software.

bunch more here for win10, may work for win7 too.

Windows 10 Won't Remember Saved WiFi Password [SOLVED] - Troubleshooter
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20 Mar 2019   #10
lamboom

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Wow, That https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/fix-windows-10-wont-remember-saved-wifi-password/

Is amazing... This is starting to scare me a bit...

I tried uninstalling Intel PROSet/Wireless ..and reinstalling it .. Even made sure it would match my adapter ... it's an older one ... Centrino Advanced-N-6205, The reinstall was OK.. Wizard said success. But then ..where is it? I couldn't finnd the software anywhere on the machine! ... so, I went back to the restore point. All's back to where it was. Have disabled PROSet, windows management is working fine.

Now to concider your next suggestion I'm not sure how to follow that path below. There is no "user name" yet,("user-PC"), and I'm not sure where "Documents and Settings" is located ....are you talking about Control Panel?

"Go to the C:\Documents and Settings\<user name> folder and delete the profile.enc and profile.enc.bak files."

Please explain that path a little more ... Regards, Michael
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