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Windows 7: computers see each other but problems

10 Jan 2010   #11
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
First about Homegroups, you can't use Homegroup sharing if there are other OP systems in the LAN like an XP or Vista machine. It's only for Windows 7 machines so you would need to first leave the HomeGroup from the Windows 7 machine then set up either the Workgroup or you can use Public file sharing.

Homegroup - Leave

Everyone makes that mistake the first time. If you have all Windows 7 machines than the Homegroup is a great sharing option because you can share entire Library's of folders very easily.

Yes that Public Advanced Sharing window one matters also, just set it to how the picture shows. Everyone makes that mistake because it's not obvious enough that there are two windows you can access from there,Work-Home and Public both have their own Advanced Sharing option windows.

It's probably best to use the Work sharing option but you can also set up a Workgroup from the Home sharing option.

Network Location - Set as Home, Work, or Public Network

Well, did all that. Password was turned off in both places . I also changed the network to a work network. and i left homegroups.

I still cant get past the username and password request when I try to access the remote XP machine.

My XP system was never set up with a password. As I recall there was the option, when XP was installed, to by-pass the login screen and a password never went into effect.

On the XP machine I am both User and Admin and there is no password associated with either account. I looked at that earlier--there is a icon in the XP control panel that will allow you to change passwords. No passwords to change.

I have to believe I have done something wrong here because
it simply doesn't make sense that they would make it so dern difficult.


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10 Jan 2010   #12
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

What people end up doing is to use the same user name and password on all machines to avoid that password prompt. At least that way you still have a password to gain entry even if they are all the same.

Although the Password protected sharing option in Advanced Sharing settings toggled either on or off should take care of that for you, it doesn't seem consistant for some reason.

I don't use user passwords so I havn't had to mess with any of that.
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10 Jan 2010   #13
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
What people end up doing is to use the same user name and password on all machines to avoid that password prompt. At least that way you still have a password to gain entry even if they are all the same.

Although the Password protected sharing option in Advanced Sharing settings toggled either on or off should take care of that for you, it doesn't seem consistant for some reason.

I don't use user passwords so I havn't had to mess with any of that.
Thank you but it's kind of after the fact isn't it? Or is it?

What I mean is what do I do to get past that login request for non-existant username and password
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10 Jan 2010   #14
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Reguardless if you dont want to use a password on any account for security reasons.... you should really put a passwords on them....

You could always have the computer log into the computer by itself and save it into the computer but being that the computer is online. It is highly important to put a password on all Administrator accounts....

For the XP Computer:

1) Restart the Computer
2) Hit F8 just before the Windows XP screen appears
3) Menu will appear, select "SAFE MODE"
4) Go into safe mode and "Administrator" will show up
5) Log into "Administrator"
6) Hit ALT, CTRL, DEL
7) Select Change Password
8) Don't put anything in the Old password; change new and save
9) Reboot

For the Windows 7:

1) Click on Start
2) type in "cmd" in the search
3) when "cmd" appears; right click and "run as administrator"
4) when the command prompt loads
5) type: net user administrator /active:yes hit enter
6) will say sucessful
7) log off your account your on...
8) when welcome screen comes on, you will see the administrator account
9) log into the administrator account
10) ALT, CTRL, DEL change password , leave old blank
11) change new to the same as the XP so its all the same
12) hit save... then log off...
13) Log back into your other user account...
14) go back into the "cmd" and "run as administrator"
15) type: net user administrator /active:no hit enter
16) this will make the administrator disapear from the welcome screen

Hope this helps.
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10 Jan 2010   #15
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by acurasd View Post
Reguardless if you dont want to use a password on any account for security reasons.... you should really put a passwords on them....

You could always have the computer log into the computer by itself and save it into the computer but being that the computer is online. It is highly important to put a password on all Administrator accounts....

For the XP Computer:

1) Restart the Computer
2) Hit F8 just before the Windows XP screen appears
3) Menu will appear, select "SAFE MODE"
4) Go into safe mode and "Administrator" will show up
5) Log into "Administrator"
6) Hit ALT, CTRL, DEL
7) Select Change Password
8) Don't put anything in the Old password; change new and save
9) Reboot

For the Windows 7:

1) Click on Start
2) type in "cmd" in the search
3) when "cmd" appears; right click and "run as administrator"
4) when the command prompt loads
5) type: net user administrator /active:yes hit enter
6) will say sucessful
7) log off your account your on...
8) when welcome screen comes on, you will see the administrator account
9) log into the administrator account
10) ALT, CTRL, DEL change password , leave old blank
11) change new to the same as the XP so its all the same
12) hit save... then log off...
13) Log back into your other user account...
14) go back into the "cmd" and "run as administrator"
15) type: net user administrator /active:no hit enter
16) this will make the administrator disapear from the welcome screen

Hope this helps.
I appreciate your input and the careful set of instructions. I really do. But I all I want to do is share files between two computers less than 40 feet apart.

I am far from being an expert or even knowledgeable. But went to some trouble to not use a password on XP and one of the first things I did when I got the Win 7 box was to turn off the login. I don't want to wait while either computer boots up so I can enter the password.

So what I'm saying is that I don't understand why I have to create a password for the XP machine after all these years. What's more even if I create a password for the XP machine, I still won't know what the username is. School me but give me good clear, understandable (understandable for the genetically clueless) reasons why this is necessary.

Below is snip of the window I'm getting when I try to access the XP machine


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10 Jan 2010   #16
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

For one... Windows XP and Windows 7 has two totally completely different security on their computers. thats the main thing.

There are just things in this world that can't be explained.

Military Intelligence.
Microsoft works...

Wait.. I am confusing those with oxymorans.

I understand how badly you dont want to "NOT" use passwords but your just goin to have to put on there and do you see that SAVE creditials button. that is the button you click where you don't even have to put a password in anymore. One time password and it remembers.

For some reason Windows XP and Windows 7 is not reconizing itself as the same USER it seems.

I know this seems kind of **** damn can't remember it. For instance, a job... you can't get job without experiance, but the in order to gain experiance you need a job....


Well, for this to work without entering a password everytime. I would sugguest that you put both of your computers in complete admin with same passwords... both computers will reconize it and then you can use the netplwiz to even skip from logging into windows as well
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10 Jan 2010   #17
SouthSeaPirate

Windows 7, XP, 2003
 
 

Sounds exactly like my problem! I could even add passwords and still not gain access! Thread> Allow the use of blank passwords on network share?!

But the thing that ulitimately fixed my issue was to correct my date and time... I know it sounds crazy but that is what fixed mine.

Just check that thread and try a few things there, including the things mentioned in the first post, do on both machines (where applicable)... Hope it helps GL!
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10 Jan 2010   #18
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

haha i love your "mouse could no be located" gif image. funny...

not as funny as a bank we have here..

They actually have braille next to a drive thru atm machine here.
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11 Jan 2010   #19
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SouthSeaPirate View Post
Sounds exactly like my problem! I could even add passwords and still not gain access! Thread> Allow the use of blank passwords on network share?!

But the thing that ulitimately fixed my issue was to correct my date and time... I know it sounds crazy but that is what fixed mine.

Just check that thread and try a few things there, including the things mentioned in the first post, do on both machines (where applicable)... Hope it helps GL!
Is there something I'm missing here? How do you correct the time and date other than clicking on the taskbar and changing it? I mean it appears to be the same on both computer.
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11 Jan 2010   #20
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Yes the date and time needs to be the same on both the Windows time and most importantly the BIOS time needs to be set properly.

You have to get into your bios to adjust the bios clock. Although if the bios clock is losing time then the mobo battery may be having problems or could need replacment. Usually Windows Updates will give you problems if the clocks aren't correctly set.

I never once heard of a time problem causing a password prompt to appear, that is just crazy wrong.

I think perhaps you set up a password to log back in which will cause nothing but problems in this respect.
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