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Windows 7: computers see each other but problems

10 Jan 2010   #1
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
computers see each other but problems

I followed the instructions for setting up a home network between a Win 7 x64 system and an XP system. I got two sets on instructions...one from Microsoft, and one from a link posted here to Astonisher.com:here.

I have gotten the two systems to see each other but there are problems.

First when I try to access the XP computer from the Win 7 computer I get a request for a username and password. I don't use a username on the XP computer...not to log in, not to do anything with the system itself. I would know what my username is and I never set a password.

Going the other way...from the XP computer to the Win 7 computer, I can see the files folders that correspond to folders on the Win7 machine but there is nothing in the folders. The files that I know are there are not showing up. Some files are there...an ini file here and there, subfolders, and some sample music that was installed by Dell, etc., but none of the downloads, documents and music that i have either created or put into those same folders...

Third with some folders on the Win 7 machine, when I click on properties and select sharing I see that a sub menu that says those folders are locked.

Complicating this, I am not sure I really understand what is wanted on either machine when it comes to making folders and files accessible. I tried to make the folder that represents the C: drive on the Win 7 system sharable. but I get an error message when I try to access it from the XP system...something about "not having permission to access this resource.".

I would appreciate any advice ...what am I missing, where did I take a wrong turn?


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10 Jan 2010   #2
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

I plan on watching the solution here because I tried this also and I didn't even come close to hooking up.
Oh . Are the sharing the public folders and documents?i
These seem to be the automatically generated folders for public access on mine.
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10 Jan 2010   #3
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

The tutorial below can show you how to share between different Op systems. You need to set up sharing premissions on those drives if you want to share them but it's not safe to share entire drives.

Getting all the Advanced Sharing settings correct goes a long way towards making everything work properly. You may also need to set up permissions on the Windows 7 folders to gain access. You can right click on folders to set up permissions for that folder.

This should answer most of your questions.
Networking home computers running different versions of Windows


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10 Jan 2010   #4
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
The tutorial below can show you how to share between different Op systems. You need to set up sharing premissions on those drives if you want to share them but it's not safe to share entire drives.

Getting all the Advanced Sharing settings correct goes a long way towards making everything work properly. You may also need to set up permissions on the Windows 7 folders to gain access. You can right click on folders to set up permissions for that folder.

This should answer most of your questions.
Networking home computers running different versions of Windows
Yes, I saw that. there is really nothing here that I haven't already done. Unless...I'm missing something or misunderstanding something.

What bothers me most right about now is why I am being asked for a username and password to access the XP computer.
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10 Jan 2010   #5
sevicetech

Windows 7/Linux Ubuntu
 
 

After reading that article I'm sure Microsoft just wants every computer upgraded to W7. Sharing public folders w/o homegroup is easy, it's the rest of the folders that won't work.
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10 Jan 2010   #6
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

The sharing system between different Op systems work perfectly. The learning curve is the real problem here. There are many options and for good reason. All those settings matter and need to be adjusted correctly.

I have tested sharing between XP and Win 7 for nearly a year. I set it up over a dozen times with just about every new Win 7 build and it works perfectly I can assure you.
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10 Jan 2010   #7
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DWFII View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
The tutorial below can show you how to share between different Op systems. You need to set up sharing premissions on those drives if you want to share them but it's not safe to share entire drives.

Getting all the Advanced Sharing settings correct goes a long way towards making everything work properly. You may also need to set up permissions on the Windows 7 folders to gain access. You can right click on folders to set up permissions for that folder.

This should answer most of your questions.
Networking home computers running different versions of Windows
Yes, I saw that. there is really nothing here that I haven't already done. Unless...I'm missing something or misunderstanding something.

What bothers me most right about now is why I am being asked for a username and password to access the XP computer.
These settings in Advanced Sharing settings have everything to do with that. Take note of the ones that mention "turn password protected sharing" On or Off.

Remember these are two seperate windows. One for Work- Home sharing and the other one for Public file sharing. You need to make sure the options are correct in both of these Windows.

Are you certain that you didn't inadvertantly set up Homegroups on the Win 7 machine because it uses a password like you mentioned. You certainly should not be seeing any type of password prompt to access the XP machine if you didn't set one up.


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10 Jan 2010   #8
DWFII

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DWFII View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
The tutorial below can show you how to share between different Op systems. You need to set up sharing premissions on those drives if you want to share them but it's not safe to share entire drives.

Getting all the Advanced Sharing settings correct goes a long way towards making everything work properly. You may also need to set up permissions on the Windows 7 folders to gain access. You can right click on folders to set up permissions for that folder.

This should answer most of your questions.
Networking home computers running different versions of Windows
Yes, I saw that. there is really nothing here that I haven't already done. Unless...I'm missing something or misunderstanding something.

What bothers me most right about now is why I am being asked for a username and password to access the XP computer.
These settings in Advanced Sharing settings have everything to do with that. Take note of the ones that mention "turn password protected sharing" On or Off.

Remember these are two seperate windows. One for Work- Home sharing and the other one for Public file sharing. You need to make sure the options are correct in both of these Windows.

Are you certain that you didn't inadvertantly set up Homegroups on the Win 7 machine because it uses a password like you mentioned. You certainly should not be seeing any type of password prompt to access the XP machine if you didn't set one up.

OK, now I think we are getting somewhere...I will have to check the business about "password protected sharing" on home sharing and public sharing. I know I have it turned off on home sharing. I didn't think to change anything with regard to public sharing.

And...I don't think it was inadvertent, maybe ignorant but not inadvertent...I did set up homegroups on the Win 7 machine. I know the password for the homegroups but I am am not sure of the username. And why would the Win 7 machine prompt me for that password to access the XP machine?!
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10 Jan 2010   #9
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

First about Homegroups, you can't use Homegroup sharing if there are other OP systems in the LAN like an XP or Vista machine. It's only for Windows 7 machines so you would need to first leave the HomeGroup from the Windows 7 machine then set up either the Workgroup or you can use Public file sharing.

Homegroup - Leave

Everyone makes that mistake the first time. If you have all Windows 7 machines than the Homegroup is a great sharing option because you can share entire Library's of folders very easily.

Yes that Public Advanced Sharing window one matters also, just set it to how the picture shows. Everyone makes that mistake because it's not obvious enough that there are two windows you can access from there,Work-Home and Public both have their own Advanced Sharing option windows.

It's probably best to use the Work sharing option but you can also set up a Workgroup from the Home sharing option.

Network Location - Set as Home, Work, or Public Network
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10 Jan 2010   #10
acurasd

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Just a quick question...

What version of Windows XP are you running....

I had the same problem... so if it does come down to it, I may have to tell you how to change your admin pass on your computer.

Try this....

On your Windows XP

As it is booting up... hit F8 so that you can boot it up into Safe Mode
In safe mode, the Administrator account should show up.
log into the account for me...

then once you are logged in... then hit Alt, Ctrl, and Del

and go to Change Password..

the Old Password is left blank.

Once changed...just reboot the computer.

This way wen you are trying to log into that computer to gain access you can always use the User: Administrator then the password you chose
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