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Windows 7: Can't share/stream to anything

10 Jan 2010   #1
chuckbales

Windows 7 x64
 
 
Can't share/stream to anything

I'm about ready to pull my hair out on this one.

The Setup: I have 3 laptops (wireless) and an Xbox 360 (wired). New laptop is a Lenovo T400 with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, old laptops are a Lenovo T42 with Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit, and a Dell Latitude Vista Business 32 bit.

I have setup the media sharing exactly the same on both Win7 laptops, allow full control, all remote control, etc. I have all services started the same on both (Media Center, WMP Network, etc). The Xbox 360 can see files on Win7 32bit and Vista 32bit, will not see the 64bit Win7. I've also tried to set it up as Media Center Extender, works fine with 32bit but not 64. If I open WMP on all the laptops, the 64bit can see libraries from both 32 bit laptops, the 32bit laptops can see eachother, but neither laptop or xbox can see the 64bit. I have Windows firewall disabled everywhere, all laptops are running the same antivirus package.

Bottom line - Is there some issue when it comes to streaming from a Win7 64bit installation? I've also tried the 64bit machine wired and wireless, still nothing. All drivers are up to date on all machines. I've also gone through the Homegroup setup on both Win7 machines and checked all sharing options there.

Another kicker is that I also have the T42 Win7 32bit mirrored as a virtual PC within the 64bit Win7, and the Xbox can stream from that virtual PC just fine, but not from the host machine.


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10 Jan 2010   #2
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Streaming works perfectly with Windows 7 both 32 and 64 bit I can assure you of that. I have tested it every which way possible and it works flawlessly for me although the permissions and settings all need to be set correctly. It sounds like you have the premissions right.

I assume you aren't using Homegroups to share because it won't work with a cross Op system set up as in no Vista or XP sharing with Homegroups. Streaming works either way but probably better in a Homegroup network which you can't use because of the Vista machine.

AV's can cause a lot of problems with it though. Which AV software are you using?
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10 Jan 2010   #3
chuckbales

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I run Nod32 on both Win7 laptops, streaming works fine from the 32bit one with it running, I disabled it on the 64bit earlier today and still didn't get anything.

I had the two Win7 PCs joined to a homegroup but disjoined them to see if I noticed anything different, but there was nothing I could see.
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10 Jan 2010   #4
fatguy

windows 7 64bit
 
 

i am having the same issues, my windows 7 64 bit desktop can see and access our laptop, a toshiba satellite running windows vista. but i cannot access the windows 7 machine. it says that i don't have privelages, access denied. i have tried turning off firewalls, av software (also nod32 on both machines), and have both set for full aceess full control. very frustrating.

michael
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11 Jan 2010   #5
chuckbales

Windows 7 x64
 
 

My issue appears to be resolved, I'm not sure what exactly fixed it (or which combo), but I can now stream from by 64bit Win7. I did the following, some of which I had done before but I was very methodical this time.

Turned off both win7 laptops and xbox, booted up 64bit and checked every media sharing option to make sure everything was enabled properly. I removed all the network devices it had found (xbox, 32bit laptop, TV) so it would re-add them with default settings (which I had as full control) when it found them again. I deleted everything from the WMP database C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Media Player) and opened WMP to force it to rebuild. I then shut down the 64bit laptop, booted up 32bit Win7 and performed all the same steps (sharing options, removing all network devices, clearing WMP database). Shut down the 32bit Win7, booted the Xbox and cleared any connections to Media Center or computers I could find, cleared its system cache too. I then booted both laptops and after restarting the WMP Network service the two WMP's could see each others libraries, and the Xbox could see them too.

Your issue looks a little different as I never got any errors about Access Denied, mine simply didn't show up.
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11 Jan 2010   #6
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

When the Op said this >I had the two Windows 7 PCs joined to a homegroup but disjoined them to see if I noticed anything different, but there was nothing I could see.
And also this> The Xbox 360 can see files on Windows 7 32bit and Vista 32bit, will not see the 64bit Windows 7.

One statement says he has the Win 7 machines joining the Homegroup yet the second statement shows he has a Vista machine in the network. You can't have a Vista machine in a network that has Homegroups set up. That most likely is the cause of the orginal problem.

It was the first thing I mentioned in fact. >I assume you aren't using Homegroups to share because it won't work with a cross Op system set up as in no Vista or XP sharing with Homegroups. Streaming works either way but probably better in a Homegroup network which you can't use because of the Vista machine.

This simple user error has caused more problems with sharing than any thing else.
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11 Jan 2010   #7
chuckbales

Windows 7 x64
 
 

So in a network of multiple PCs, if there is one PC not running Windows 7 then you shouldn't setup a homegroup for the PCs that are Win7?

I figured if the 32bit Win7 was joined to the homegroup and streaming was still working from it then the homegroup wasn't the cause. Either way, I'll be leaving the setup as it is now before I throw anything else off.
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11 Jan 2010   #8
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Yes it will only cause problems such as you are describing. Everyone keeps doing that with their Win 7 machines and it's just wrecking havoc.
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11 Jan 2010   #9
chuckbales

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I dont think anyones to blame, nowhere during the setup of a homegroup did I see anything warning against doing it if non-Win7 PCs are on the network. Plus since you can still have a workgroup and a homegroup it can be confusing.
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11 Jan 2010   #10
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chuckbales View Post
I dont think anyones to blame, nowhere during the setup of a homegroup did I see anything warning against doing it if non-Win7 PCs are on the network. Plus since you can still have a workgroup and a homegroup it can be confusing.
I agree and that is Exactly the problem. It's very confusing and nobody is to blame other than Msoft for not putting a warning prompt in place to prevent this common mistake.

It seems to me that before a Homegroup is set up there needs to be a scan that takes place to look for any XP or Vista machines in the network, of course all machines would need to be turned on first.

If it spots a non Win 7 machine there needs to be a prompt to prevent users from creating the Homegroup in the first place.
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