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Windows 7: Homegroup probs, can't access C on Win 7 comps.

02 Feb 2010   #1
Keeper Dave

Win 7 Home Premium
 
 
Homegroup probs, can't access C on Win 7 comps.

I have a total of six computers on my home network. Four (two wired, two wireless) run XP, two (both wired) run Win 7. I have a new D-link DIR615 router replacing an older Linksys with which I had the same problems.

All of the XP machines connect with each other and share files to all drives perfectly. All six machines connect and share files with the secondary drives but NOT the C drives of the Win 7 machines. I can't get the Win 7 machines to see each other in the homegroup.

Each 7 machine says that it's joined to a homegroup, but that there's no other computer in the homegroup. Both are on.

Passwords are the same and I have password access disabled anyway.

All permissions I can find are enabled.

Network discovery is enabled.

All sharing is enabled, including all settings I could find for the C drives of the Win 7 machines.

One thing I found is that IPv6 shows "No internet connectivity" on both 7 machines. IPv4 shows internet connectivity. I really don't know what that means.

I've tried everything I've found on every tutorial I've found and can't make this work. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


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02 Feb 2010   #2
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Homegroups is not made to work in a mixed Op system network, it's only made to function correctly with all Windows 7 machines. You need to set up a Workgroup for a mixed Op system network.

IPv6 only connects on the LAN and is used locally for the Homegroup network. That is why it says disconnected which is in reference to the WAN.

You should leave the Homegroup on all of the Windows 7 machines and create a Workgroup.
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02 Feb 2010   #3
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Keeper Dave View Post
I have a total of six computers on my home network. Four (two wired, two wireless) run XP, two (both wired) run Win 7. I have a new D-link DIR615 router replacing an older Linksys with which I had the same problems.

All of the XP machines connect with each other and share files to all drives perfectly. All six machines connect and share files with the secondary drives but NOT the C drives of the Win 7 machines. I can't get the Win 7 machines to see each other in the homegroup.

Each 7 machine says that it's joined to a homegroup, but that there's no other computer in the homegroup. Both are on.

Passwords are the same and I have password access disabled anyway.

All permissions I can find are enabled.

Network discovery is enabled.

All sharing is enabled, including all settings I could find for the C drives of the Win 7 machines.

One thing I found is that IPv6 shows "No internet connectivity" on both 7 machines. IPv4 shows internet connectivity. I really don't know what that means.

I've tried everything I've found on every tutorial I've found and can't make this work. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

KD

Ho and welcome

Homegroup is for win 7 machines only. Mixed environments need "workgroup". Homegrooup uses IPv6, workgroup IPv4. Instructions for leaving homegroup can be found here. Homegroup - Leave

Then just make a new network connection using workgroup

Let us know if you need help

Ken
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02 Feb 2010   #4
Keeper Dave

Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Keeper Dave View Post
I have a total of six computers on my home network. Four (two wired, two wireless) run XP, two (both wired) run Win 7. I have a new D-link DIR615 router replacing an older Linksys with which I had the same problems.

All of the XP machines connect with each other and share files to all drives perfectly. All six machines connect and share files with the secondary drives but NOT the C drives of the Win 7 machines. I can't get the Win 7 machines to see each other in the homegroup.

Each 7 machine says that it's joined to a homegroup, but that there's no other computer in the homegroup. Both are on.

Passwords are the same and I have password access disabled anyway.

All permissions I can find are enabled.

Network discovery is enabled.

All sharing is enabled, including all settings I could find for the C drives of the Win 7 machines.

One thing I found is that IPv6 shows "No internet connectivity" on both 7 machines. IPv4 shows internet connectivity. I really don't know what that means.

I've tried everything I've found on every tutorial I've found and can't make this work. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

KD

Ho and welcome

Homegroup is for win 7 machines only. Mixed environments need "workgroup". Homegrooup uses IPv6, workgroup IPv4. Instructions for leaving homegroup can be found here. Homegroup - Leave

Then just make a new network connection using workgroup

Let us know if you need help

Ken
OK. Thanks very much to both of you.

I thought I could create a Homegroup with just the two Win 7 comps but I guess not and that's fine.

I did change the workgroup names on both Win 7 comps from "Workgroup" to "Home" to match the four XP machines. I still can't write files to the C drive on either Win 7 machine from any other including the other Win 7 comp. I can write to any drive including C on the XP machines just fine and also to the D drives on both Win 7 machines. I think I have Advanced Sharing for C on both Win 7 machines set as wide open as possible, but maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks again.

Dave
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02 Feb 2010   #5
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

It might help to run the network set up wizard on all the XP machines and rejoin the new workgroup with them all.

As for sharing the entire C drive, this is not advised for security reasons but can be done. I'm just using the D drive as an example here. I can't say for sure how well sharing the entire C drive will work in a mixed Op system "Work" type network. You have to right click the drive and choose Advanced sharing then Advanced sharing again, put in the check marks then hit apply and reboot all machines.

It also seems to help with sharing if you use the same user names and passwords on all of the Workgroup machines.

The Public files work pretty well for sharing in a mixed OP system network. If you are running any type of A/V software or third party firewalls they can and will cause sharing problems for you also.


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02 Feb 2010   #6
TGSoldier

 
 

My friend who is opening his internet cafe tmr is having a similar problem. He is saying that he has the C drive on each machine share ( i advised otherwise ) but whether homegroup or workgroup, he keeps getting access denied.

He says his permissions are set to full on everything. Going to head down there and check it out for him later

He says file and printer sharing and network discovery is on. I even had him disable firewalls. Not sure what the problem is by I'm sure I can get it out when I reach down there.

Meanwhile, anyone have anything of the top of their head with a similar problem and a solution? ( Will make my work easier if I know what I'm looking for )
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02 Feb 2010   #7
Keeper Dave

Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TGSoldier View Post
My friend who is opening his internet cafe tmr is having a similar problem. He is saying that he has the C drive on each machine share ( i advised otherwise ) but whether homegroup or workgroup, he keeps getting access denied.

He says his permissions are set to full on everything. Going to head down there and check it out for him later

He says file and printer sharing and network discovery is on. I even had him disable firewalls. Not sure what the problem is by I'm sure I can get it out when I reach down there.

Meanwhile, anyone have anything of the top of their head with a similar problem and a solution? ( Will make my work easier if I know what I'm looking for )
OK. First off, thanks very much to the previous responders. I learned much from all of you.

Now, what I finally ended up doing was creating a folder called "Files" in the C:/Users/Public folder of each computer. Then I created a desktop shortcut to each, the local and the remote folders. That way I can just drop files into the remote folder of each computer and retrieve them VIA the shortcut to the local folder. Really simple and I might do it for all six comps though I don't share with the others as much.

Thanks to all. This is a very valuable forum.

Dave
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02 Feb 2010   #8
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Sounds good Dave, those public folders are useful and seem to work well for everyone in a mixed Op system network. It's nice to see a fellow San Diegian in here.

It sounds like you have the shares working well so I'll mark as solved.
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