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Windows 7: Need Router help

07 Mar 2010   #1
LADYPINKtomato1

Windows 8 - 64-bit
 
 
Need Router help

I'm ready to start securing my Router for the Acer Laptop..
All is running good on it.

Router Info..

Belkin Enhanced Wireless Router N 150
Ideal for : Streaming music, Videos, from the web,file sharing, and transferring photos.
There is a button just below a lock with WPS on it..referred to as Push-Button Security.
Belkin says this Easily safeguards your wireless network from internet intruders.

That's all I see right now to give info about the router.. Ask for more if you need it..I'll try to help.

Thanks in advance.
LPt


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10 Mar 2010   #2
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hi,

Sorry it's been a while getting back to you been busy with other things

From the Info you've given I think the following is the set-up you want for wireless security. To be sure you will need the router model No that is on the printed on the base/back of the device - Normally f*D****, but the tutorial is fairly general for Belkin Routers o should meet needs anyway.

Belkin : Support : Protecting your network with WPA/WPA2 security

Once you have followed the guide to set things up, the next time you try to attach to the router from the wireless laptop you should be prompted to enter a key (this should be remembered by win7 so you should not have to remembering another password).

Looking at the Belkin support section that the link is to there are lots of good tutorials for your router, so It may be worthwhile taking a look around there when you have time.
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10 Mar 2010   #3
LADYPINKtomato1

Windows 8 - 64-bit
 
 

Barman hello.. thanks so much.. I've been working in the yard today..
so will try this tomorrow.
Surely I can get this accomplished .. If I need help I'll get back here.

Thanks again.
LPt
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30 Mar 2010   #4
iseeuu

 
 

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30 Mar 2010   #5
LADYPINKtomato1

Windows 8 - 64-bit
 
 

MY top number is slightly different..
here is the one on my router...
F6D4230-4 v1

The 2nd screen shot looks similar to mine.. as much as I can see from the screen shot.
Thank you very much for these.
G.
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31 Mar 2010   #6
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Thanks for the screenshots Robert

LPT,
Once you have the wireless security set-up the only extra thing you need to do is decide which type of network this will be, as far a Win7 is concerned, as soon as the network is detected you will be prompted to decide which type this network will be.

There are three types available, one of which we can ignore - The work type network is used where a business has a server that controls everything so does not apply to the normal home situation.

The two others are Home or Public

Home - This network is one where the only other computers that have access to it are known and trusted by you. This should be ideal for your situation as it is the network type that allows you to share files and printers between your Desktop and laptop.

Public this type of network is used where you do not know the other users for example in a public place, like a coffee shop or similar, this does not allow any sharing so protects the laptop. If you are not at your home and you connect to a free wireless network this is the choice to make.

Every network you connect to will have this setting made and will remember the choice you make, so whenever you return home you will automatically connect correctly.

There is an option in the "network and sharing center" to change the network type if you ever wish to
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31 Mar 2010   #7
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Thanks for the screenshots Robert
...snip...
Home - This network is one where the only other computers that have access to it are known and trusted by you. This should be ideal for your situation as it is the network type that allows you to share files and printers between your Desktop and laptop.
...snip...
There is an option in the "network and sharing center" to change the network type if you ever wish to
Nigel;

I made some more screen shots that LPT may need ...

Please correct me if I am wrong, as I have a mix of computers/OSs and do not use "HomeGroup". I noticed in an earlier thread LPT posted she had setup her home network using the "Public" network settings. I thought that HomeGroup would only work with the "Home" network settings?

If this is so, would she have to create a new network, or can the existing network be changed from "Public" to "Home"?

Cheers!
Robert

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31 Mar 2010   #8
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hi Robert,

The home and public settings I'm referring to here are workgroup IPv4 related firewall port exception sets and sharing presets.

Basically setting to the Home type switches on the network discovery and file and printer sharing and opens the required ports (134 - 139 & 445 of the top of my head), the public setting does the opposite.

This does not effect the homegroup settings which are a special set of ports on the IPv6 protocol.

As for swapping between Home and Public there is an option available via the Network and Sharing dialogue. You can also manually change options in either setting to match those in the other, but that does defeat the benefit of having the presets
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31 Mar 2010   #9
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Hi Robert,

The home and public settings I'm referring to here are workgroup IPv4 related firewall port exception sets and sharing presets.

Basically setting to the Home type switches on the network discovery and file and printer sharing and opens the required ports (134 - 139 & 445 of the top of my head), the public setting does the opposite.

This does not effect the homegroup settings which are a special set of ports on the IPv6 protocol.

As for swapping between Home and Public there is an option available via the Network and Sharing dialogue. You can also manually change options in either setting to match those in the other, but that does defeat the benefit of having the presets
Well ... now I am really confused. Obviously you are much better informed on this subject than I. What I was referring to was this MS link: Choosing a network location
  • Choose Work network for small office or other workplace networks. Network discovery, which allows you to see other computers and devices on a network and allows other network users to see your computer, is on by default, but you can't create or join a homegroup. For more information, see What is network discovery?
  • Choose Public network for networks in public places (such as coffee shops or airports). This location is designed to keep your computer from being visible to other computers around you and to help protect your computer from any malicious software from the Internet. HomeGroup is not available on public networks, and network discovery is turned off. You should also choose this option if you're connected directly to the Internet without using a router, or if you have a mobile broadband connection.

On this post: Acer Laptop.. ready to get it online LTP said this:

"Next it showed my :.. For A Network: choices of the 3 below
Home
Work
Public.. I chose :Public Network
Then it said completed.. so Closed it"

If she is expecting to use HomeGroup when she finally gets both desktop and laptop to communicate with her router, according to the above quoted web site, she will need the "Home" network location, correct? Or am I just totally missing the meaning of your explanation? I apologize in advance because at times I can be really dense!!

Cheers!
Robert
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31 Mar 2010   #10
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Good questions. I am confused by all of this, too. I do understand what the public network is and does and I think I understand what the homegroup is and does.
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