Win 7 and Vista connection woes

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  1. Posts : 15
    Win7 Home & Pro (Desktop & Laptop) 64bit
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    Win 7 and Vista connection woes


    I am trying to network my 32 bit Vista laptop and 64 bit Win 7 desktop.

    Win 7 desktop can see and connect to Vista laptop and I have set up folder synching using Allway Sync.

    My Vista laptop can see my Win 7 desktop in network ‘full map’ and I can ping the desktop from the laptop. But it will not let me open files or folders on the desktop. It asks for the username and password, which I enter correctly but I get the response the username and/or password is incorrect.

    The funny thing is, I had this setup before, but had the reverse issue where the laptop would connect to the desktop but the desktop would not connect to the laptop with the same symptoms.

    Am I missing something simple? I have ‘googled’ for a solution, but lots of people have similar problems with no solution and the advice is generally to do what I have already done.
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  2. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
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    Smiling Carcass said:
    I am trying to network my 32 bit Vista laptop and 64 bit Win 7 desktop.

    Win 7 desktop can see and connect to Vista laptop and I have set up folder synching using Allway Sync.

    My Vista laptop can see my Win 7 desktop in network ‘full map’ and I can ping the desktop from the laptop. But it will not let me open files or folders on the desktop. It asks for the username and password, which I enter correctly but I get the response the username and/or password is incorrect.

    The funny thing is, I had this setup before, but had the reverse issue where the laptop would connect to the desktop but the desktop would not connect to the laptop with the same symptoms.

    Am I missing something simple? I have ‘googled’ for a solution, but lots of people have similar problems with no solution and the advice is generally to do what I have already done.

    I suspect you have two problems.. First you are probably running homegroup. Since you have vista and win 7 you should be running "workgroup", second Joe on vista is not the same as joe on win 7. So user name Joe with password on one must be set up as machine name\joe\password.

    Let us know if you need help

    Ken
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  3. Posts : 15
    Win7 Home & Pro (Desktop & Laptop) 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks, Ken but I am not using Homegroup both machines are in the same workgroup.
    I'll try your 'name' suggestion and see where it goes. Be back to let you know.
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  4. Posts : 15
    Win7 Home & Pro (Desktop & Laptop) 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Tried:
    \\computername\username

    username@computername

    COMPUTERNAME\username

    username

    The last 3 suggested by Vista


    Still no joy. Using the 3 Vista suggestions I got a ‘Login unsuccessful’ but the one I tried with the double backslash resulted in the Vista suggestions.
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  5. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #5

    Which A/V software are you using? Which ever one you are using it's most likely causing this problem.
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  6. Posts : 15
    Win7 Home & Pro (Desktop & Laptop) 64bit
    Thread Starter
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    Using AVGv Free on both machines but I wouldn't have thought A/V would block a wireless connection, at least not without a warning that I usually get when AVG identifies problems. Maybe a firewall. but I do not use software firewall, only the routers firewall.

    I did read that I need to change the encryption in advanced sharing options from 128 bit to 64 bit in Win 7 but I'm blowed if I can find the option.
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  7. Posts : 8,870
    Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
       #7

    I can assure you that AVG can easily cause this type of problem. A/V's are pretty much made to block connections from being made including wireless connections. It's also famous for causing intermittent sharing problems such as you seem to be having. I have no reason to make this information up. It's a fact and has proven to be true so many times I've lost count.

    If you are using a workgroup you should make sure that the Workgroup name is the same for all machines.

    After that run the network setup wizard on the Vista machines and be sure and set permissions for sharing. You may need to uninstall AVG completely before this works. Your third party sync program can also cause problems in some cases. Make sure the time/date settings are in sync on your machines because that can cause the User name password are incorrect problem.

    It's always best to set up sharing and make sure it's all working before installing any type of A/V software.

    The options for the encryption and other advanced sharing options can be found under the Advance Sharing Options window which you can get to by going to the Network and Sharing center of the Windows 7 machine.

    Make sure that all the correct options are enabled on both the Home-Work and the Public Advanced sharing options windows.
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    Last edited by chev65; 09 Jun 2010 at 19:33.
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  8. Posts : 15
    Win7 Home & Pro (Desktop & Laptop) 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Chev65, even though I think it unlikely, I am open to all suggestions at this stage. I even read somewhere that turning off hardware acceleration for graphics cards has been effective for this problem. Totally unintuitive, but at least one person said it worked for them.

    So, I prevented AVG from starting on both machines with msconfig. No joy (though I have noted you think it might need to be uninstalled)

    I found the encryption option and the choice was to turn off 128 bit encryption and enable 40 – 56 bit encryption- no mention of 64 bit so I tried this. No result.

    I’m really stumped with this one. I can see the desktop on the network and can ping it. But I cannot access it because the password/login combination are reported as incorrect. (Which they aren’t).

    Now going to try running the network wizard on the vista laptop.
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  9. Posts : 3
    Win 7 64bit
       #9

    Win 7 and Vista connection woes


    I had this.
    Problem was that all my PCs have the same user name and pw. The old Vista kept reverting to oldVistaComputerName\userName if inputting just userName and inputting win7ComputerName\userName was rejected.
    For anyone else the following worked: setup a new account in Win7 (can use same pw) and input newUserName. Magic.
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  10. Posts : 1,025
    Linux Lite 3.2 x64; Windows 7, 8.1
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    Sorry if I missed this, but do you have NTFS permissions set on the Win7 machine to let the Vista user in?
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