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Windows 7: Homegroup hell!

28 Jun 2010   #11
Teekz

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
 
 

Hm. Very peculiar. When all 3 machines were running 32-bit, the same A/V software didn't make a difference. Oh, well. Uninstalling now, I'll report back with results.


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28 Jun 2010   #12
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Teekz View Post
Hm. Very peculiar. When all 3 machines were running 32-bit, the same A/V software didn't make a difference. Oh, well. Uninstalling now, I'll report back with results.
If the 64-bit machine is running a special 64-bit version of the software, it's possible that only the 64-bit software has a problem with the Homegroup. But I agree with chev65, uninstalling the A/V software is your best bet, at least for now.
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28 Jun 2010   #13
Teekz

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
 
 

Right, some success. I've uninstalled the A/V software on both the wired x64 desktop, and the wireless x32 laptop.

I then created a homegroup on the desktop, and the laptop can now see it. The only problem being that when the laptop tries to join, it gives an incorrect password error. And no, the password is not incorrect. I've tried changing the pass, restarting both machines, then trying to join again twice now. all the same issue.

I read somewhere a while back that Homegroup stores some sort of cache files in C:/WINDOWS somewhere, and that if you erased it, all traces of any previous settings would be gone. I can't find the article any more, or remember where it said. Any ideas? as to the cache directory, or my problem in general?
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28 Jun 2010   #14
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

You can access the passwords and credentials by going to Device manager>large icons>credential manager.

Although the problem you are describing usually has to do with the Time/Date settings being out of sync on your machines. That is why the problem is listed in the Homegroup trouble shooter I posted earlier.
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28 Jun 2010   #15
Teekz

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
 
 

RIGHT. I did sync the time, but with different time servers. This has since been rectified. Quite the ID-10t error.

A connection has now been established. Except when I try to access a shared folder on the desktop, from the laptop, it says "You do not have permission to access.."

Might sound a silly question, and I apologise, but how do I go about allowing permissions? I've tried to alter the Advanced Homegroup settings, and I've allowed the folder that I wish to be shared to be written to and read by the homegroup.
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28 Jun 2010   #16
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Gald the time/date sync suggestion helped. Least we are getting somewhere now.

You sometimes have to type the word "Everyone" then give them full control by putting the check marks in place. Plenty of security with Windows 7 but not so easy to figure out for some. You will need to do this on all machines for which ever folders you intend to share. Once you get the hang of it it's easy enough.

Permissions for Homegroup sharing is a bit different though, they are listed futher down the page in the link below.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ns.html?filter
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28 Jun 2010   #17
Teekz

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
 
 

That seems to have done it. It's funny, because I've been trying countless complicated methods for quite some time now, and now that you guys have pointed out the solutions, (in less than a day, I might add), they seem blindingly obvious. Thanks a lot. I'll do the "rep" thing, for the both of you.

Now there is an established connection, do you think it would stay active if I put up the same firewall agail? I believe someone stated before that you should always establish a connection before installing such things.
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28 Jun 2010   #18
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Glad you got the problem sorted out Teekz.

Yes I stated earlier that it's best to get the network up and running before you install any type of A/V software. That way you will know exactly what caused the problems with sharing when they occur.

Sometimes installing the A/V after you have the network and sharing working will allow the A/V to pick up the changes and make rules accordingly. Although nod32 mentioned it isn't working yet with Homegroups and 64 bit so it's hard to say for sure. It might require some firewall settings to be configured manually.
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28 Jun 2010   #19
Teekz

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
 
 

I'll have a play around with it. Worst case scenario, it fails, and I uninstall it again.

Thanks again.
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30 Jun 2010   #20
Teekz

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1
 
 

I'm afraid we have a problem.

Whenever I try to connect, it gives me

Code:
Logon Failure: User Account Restriction: Possible reasons are blank passwords not allowed, logon hour restrictions, or a policy restriction has been enforced.
In the Homegroup settings, the password protected sharing option is off, on both machines.

Any help?

EDIT - Never mind. I left Homegroup on both, restarted both, rejoined both, works. Sorry for bother.
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