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Windows 7: Mozilla Plans Silent Updates for Firefox

09 Aug 2010   #21
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
still beats IE by a mile though

Believe it or not, I have seen exactly that, more than a few times on broken systems.


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09 Aug 2010   #22
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
still beats IE by a mile though

Believe it or not, I have seen exactly that, more than a few times on broken systems.

The worst that I had ever seen was on a small monitor setup, that you could barely see a 1/8th of a web page. They used it like that for a long time, and just scrolled through pages thinking that is how it was supposed to be. Then I started removing them and they said "Really? I didn't even know". Yeah, crazy.
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09 Aug 2010   #23
madtownidiot

 

I can sum up the reason I prefer FF to IE in four words: adblock plus and noscript,
They stop most of that crap before the end user can accidentally click on it. On most of the computers I've bought and sold lately, there really isn't much of a difference between FF and IE speedwise, given a reasonably fast internet connection, but properly configured, FF is far more secure than IE.. which will always be more vulnerable because it's embedded into the OS and uses active x.
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10 Aug 2010   #24
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

There are ad blockers for IE (even though the ad block plus guy has some political adgenda against providing it for IE, his "reasons" for not doing so are completely invalid, it's like he hasn't even bothered to try to look into it, he just doesn't want to but others have taken up his slack)

Also, IE has BUILT IN "no script" handling... Admitedly it's not as nice to use as NoScript but there are also other no script plugins for IE as well. EVERYONE should use the built in feature at minimum but of course it's not actually fully enabled by default because that would kill nearly every web page made and 99% of users are not willing or able to manage such a thing themselves
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10 Aug 2010   #25
KremmenUK

MSDN Home Premium
 
 

Previous updates have rendered some Add-ins incompatible. If you can't stick with a particular version until compatible then you could be up the creek.

Norton has 2 add-ons that are not always updated quickly.

I'll bet they don't work in FF4 yet.
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10 Aug 2010   #26
madtownidiot

 

You can get adblock plus for IE, but you have to pay for it, which is fair enough considering the effort involved in developing it. Noscript for FF is not exactly friendly for the average user, but very good at stopping malicious scripts and drive-by downloads that try to install fake AV's and the like.. Have you seen what happens to a computer that gets infected by some variation of "antivirus pro" or "security tool"? .. it's really annoying, and renders a computer unusable to the average person
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10 Aug 2010   #27
windows7user

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
You can get adblock plus for IE, but you have to pay for it, which is fair enough considering the effort involved in developing it.
I use Adblock IE (Adblock IE), which does a very good job blocking ads in IE and is free.
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10 Aug 2010   #28
madtownidiot

 

ok... so now adblock IE is free ... pretty sure it wasn't the last I loooked it up, but that eas a while ago

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10 Aug 2010   #29
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I'm the type that for the most part goes with updates for my software when they are available and have suffered very few serious problems because of it. While I do review Windows update stuff for work on our WSUS server, for home based use, if Microsoft releases a critical update then I am pretty much going to install it.

I mean, with current versions of Firefox, how many of you guys get the pop-up that a new version of FF is available and you just click on it to get the new version? Do you really stop to think about, make a backup, scour the web doing research, double check all of your plugins and then resort to installing it? My guess is that very few do that.
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10 Aug 2010   #30
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I mean, with current versions of Firefox, how many of you guys get the pop-up that a new version of FF is available and you just click on it to get the new version? Do you really stop to think about, make a backup, scour the web doing research, double check all of your plugins and then resort to installing it? My guess is that very few do that.
I agree that few people do that. That is one reason why millions of computers get infected by worms when patches are already available (talking Windows here). But I do have it set to not update and I actually look for updates and when one is found I read the release notes/bug fixes. But no, not many at all do that. That stuff doesn't mean much to most users.
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