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Windows 7: No 64-bit (x64) Firefox 4.0, 32-bit (x86) Only – List of Supported....

07 Sep 2010   #41
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

I'm happy to see all software headed to x64 land. This is a mistake IMO.

As far as Flash goes, it's dying a very slow, painful death.


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07 Sep 2010   #42
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I think Flash is going to last longer than you think. Tons of websites still use Flash content over Silverlight and HTML5. I don't think HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash, as some (looking at you, Jobs) claim. I think HTML5 will just take away Flash's "basic" appeal for things like video, etc. High-end, professional, interactive stuff will still be on Flash and Silverlight, methinks, because I haven't seen anything in HTML5 that can accomplish that level of web development.

I believe Minefield users can still get "Firefox x64". Personally, if Mozilla is not confident that Firefox x64 could perform as expected in a general public release, then I think they're right to wait.
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07 Sep 2010   #43
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme View Post
I think Flash is going to last longer than you think. Tons of websites still use Flash content over Silverlight and HTML5. I don't think HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash, as some (looking at you, Jobs) claim. I think HTML5 will just take away Flash's "basic" appeal for things like video, etc. High-end, professional, interactive stuff will still be on Flash and Silverlight, methinks, because I haven't seen anything in HTML5 that can accomplish that level of web development.

I believe Minefield users can still get "Firefox x64". Personally, if Mozilla is not confident that Firefox x64 could perform as expected in a general public release, then I think they're right to wait.
Even if Silverlight or HTML 5 doesn't kill flash, something will come along in the not-too-distant future. I never claimed either would. But perhaps something we cannot presently envision will.

As a side note, it appears Google could be playing with HTML 5 again.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/20492...html?tk=hp_new
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07 Sep 2010   #44
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme View Post
I think Flash is going to last longer than you think. Tons of websites still use Flash content over Silverlight and HTML5. I don't think HTML5 is ever going to replace Flash, as some (looking at you, Jobs) claim. I think HTML5 will just take away Flash's "basic" appeal for things like video, etc. High-end, professional, interactive stuff will still be on Flash and Silverlight, methinks, because I haven't seen anything in HTML5 that can accomplish that level of web development.

I believe Minefield users can still get "Firefox x64". Personally, if Mozilla is not confident that Firefox x64 could perform as expected in a general public release, then I think they're right to wait.
Even if Silverlight or HTML 5 doesn't kill flash, something will come along in the not-too-distant future. I never claimed either would. But perhaps something we cannot presently envision will.

As a side note, it appears Google could be playing with HTML 5 again.

What’s Up With Google's Bouncy Ball Logo? - PCWorld
I'm not aware of any development that is that promising. Remember, a lot of people have predicted the "death" of a lot of things over the years, and many times they are wrong. Apple and their supporters have been predicting the death of Windows since Windows 1.0 came out, and it hasn't happened. Every new touchscreen phone is put through an "iPhone-killer" litmus test. And how many office suites are billed by their developers and users as the death of Microsoft Office?

Currently, Flash is #1 for professional interactive web development. Even if a new framework could compete with Flash on a significant level, you would still have the issue of many, many companies and developers not wanting to learn a whole new scripting language after spending their entire careers reaching fluency in ActionScript. A lot of the Flash developers I've come across are die-hards that will never go in for a whole new system.

Although that new Google logo is cool!
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07 Sep 2010   #45
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

I've been thinking about today's Google.com logo. People are trying to figure out what it represents. I think they maybe be testing out having an animated logo every day. Seems a bit much, but Bing has a new photo every day. And while Google allows you to change the background of Google.com, they may be looking to differentiate itself from Bing.
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07 Sep 2010   #46
Lemur

Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Win 8 Developer
 
 

When it comes down to it, how many of us are using IE 64-bit? Again, for the same reason that Flash does not have 64-bit as of yet (they eventually will). I have minefield installed on a virtual pc, but have not really found a reason to run that as well.
As an example, I am interested in Second Life development for education. They have thus far refused to develop a 64-bit client. Other clients are integrating with the browser for SL. I'd love to see this go 64-bit, along with the client.
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07 Sep 2010   #47
Lemur

Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Win 8 Developer
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
As far as Flash goes, it's dying a very slow, painful death.
Apple is really sticking it to Flash. They (IMHO) really screwed Adobe over.
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07 Sep 2010   #48
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
As far as Flash goes, it's dying a very slow, painful death.
Apple is really sticking it to Flash. They (IMHO) really screwed Adobe over.
Meh, I don't think Adobe has to be that worried about Apple. It's when Android and other mobile platforms find a new technology to use. Heck, Google may come up with a new rival that finally kills Flash. Not like Google will jump in with Silverlight LOL.
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08 Sep 2010   #49
bobtran

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
As far as Flash goes, it's dying a very slow, painful death.
Apple is really sticking it to Flash. They (IMHO) really screwed Adobe over.
Actually I think that the real story here is the complete and total indifference that Adobe has shown the public in general. Apple screwing Adobe....please, Adobe has been screwing the people as a whole for a long, long time and they are simply reaping what they have sown. Karma, plain and simple.

As for x64 firefox:
If in doubt about living without flash try "Flash-block" add-on for firefox and find out.

Link to the nightly x64 Firefox (as of 9/7/2010 Version 4.0b 6pre) build: http://nightly.mozilla.org/
-minefield-x64.png


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08 Sep 2010   #50
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobtran View Post
Actually I think that the real story here is the complete and total indifference that Adobe has shown the public in general. Apple screwing Adobe....please, Adobe has been screwing the people as a whole for a long, long time and they are simply reaping what they have sown. Carma, plain and simple.
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