Technet Plus changed and Reduced number of Keys to 5

hackerman1 said:
so i WAS right...

call me HAWKEYE...
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Yes, they use the same policy as on BizSpark accounts. There you get 2 keys for almost every products, with some exceptions.
But the change is still not active, still only the desktop products.
 

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It really is too bad TechNet 'scripts have fallen victims of the "bad guys". I suspect this is the result of the success of Windows 7, or not. I'll be curious to see what is available, if anything, from TechNet next June when my 'script is up for renewal.
 
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Heh we'll see how many activates we really get. One of my machines died and I had to transfer the HD to another machine on sunday and W7 is asking for asking for activation again. Strangely the activation servers were not responding due to "security issues" or something to that effect...
 

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fseal said:
Heh we'll see how many activates we really get. One of my machines died and I had to transfer the HD to another machine on sunday and W7 is asking for asking for activation again. Strangely the activation servers were not responding due to "security issues" or something to that effect...
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I activated 9 computers yesterday with the same Win7 HP key and Office 2010 Standard key. No problems at all.
And they have not mention the number of activations per key on any place, so I'm pretty sure that it's still 10 activations per key.

Mike Kinsman at Microsoft also write that each key has a minimum of 10 activations here: Technet Standard Keys
 

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hackerman1 said:
myhken said:
fseal said:
Mike Kinsman at Microsoft also write that each key has a minimum of 10 activations here: Technet Standard Keys
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"minimum 10 activations" ?
where, which post ?
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Here:

Unfortunately nothing with keys is ever simple Harry :) The product in question, the type of key you've used, the number of times you've used it on the same machine, and the number of times used on different machines are all factors. Its long been the standard that the number of activations on different machines is 10 per key, but there are many exceptions to this, and it could be that a few of your activations were done on the same hardware. Clear as mud? Sorry about that.
I'll take one of my Win7 Ultimate keys I have for TechNet and see if I can get some hard numbers for you.
Thanks,
Mike
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And snapshot on VmWare if you test much with virtual computers. Setup, activate, take snapshot, start testing. After the test, reset the VM and you have not used up a new activation.
This is the only way I have used so few keys on so many test I do on my servers.
On the other side, I have used up activations only to test a small thing...and then reset or deleted the VM right after the test..
 

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myhken said:
hackerman1 said:
myhken said:
"minimum 10 activations" ?
where, which post ?
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Here:

Unfortunately nothing with keys is ever simple Harry :) The product in question, the type of key you've used, the number of times you've used it on the same machine, and the number of times used on different machines are all factors. Its long been the standard that the number of activations on different machines is 10 per key, but there are many exceptions to this, and it could be that a few of your activations were done on the same hardware. Clear as mud? Sorry about that.
I'll take one of my Win7 Ultimate keys I have for TechNet and see if I can get some hard numbers for you.
Thanks,
Mike
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thanks, i have seen that post.
but, that was posted "Monday, September 20, 2010 7:31 PM"
which means Mike wrote that BEFORE the latest changes, (2 / 5 keys for ALL)...

maybe that have been changed too...
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The change Mike Kinsman wrote about earlier today is now applied:

270910_technet_5keys1.jpg


You now only gets 5 keys to every products on Technet. No exceptions without the VA 1.0 keys 1/1 and the MAK keys 1/1.
 

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hackerman1 said:
myhken said:
thanks, i have seen that post.
but, that was posted "Monday, September 20, 2010 7:31 PM"
which means Mike wrote that BEFORE the latest changes, (2 / 5 keys for ALL)...

maybe that have been changed too...
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I can not see any reason why MS will change the numbers of activations per key. The only program at Microsoft that has one activations per key is MSDNAA, and if you wait 90 days between each activation, you can activate MSDNAA keys more then once also.

But if you want to be paranoid, and spread rumors, then keep it up. They had not changed the numbers yesterday. And if anybody wants, I can run a new test, activating all 9 computers with a new key. We can wait a day or two so we are sure all changes to Technet is finish.
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myhken said:
The change Mike Kinsman wrote about earlier today is now applied:

You now only gets 5 keys to every products on Technet. No exceptions without the VA 1.0 keys 1/1 and the MAK keys 1/1.
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"No exceptions without the VA 1.0 keys 1/1 and the MAK keys 1/1"

sorry, i don´t understand what you mean.

do you mean that those programs with MAK-keys & 500 activations are not changed ?
 

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Yes, the VA 1,0 key has always been one (don't how many activation you can use there) and the MAK keys still gives you 500 activations, but only ONE key.
Vista Enterprise (and Business) = 1 MAK key but only 100 activations.

Did just check with VAMT 2.0, and no changes in the numbers of activations for MAK keys on my Technet Pro account:

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mange takk Kenneth !

EDIT: when i posted the above ("thanks a lot Kenneth", in english) i had not seen this in Kenneths post, #273:

"But if you want to be paranoid, and spread rumors, then keep it up." ???

http://www.sevenforums.com/982101-post273.html


i´m ASKING, for correct information !
is that "spreading rumors" ???

Mike posted a week ago....
with all the changes that has happened, do you seriuosly mean it´s wrong to ask ?


of course, i do NOT thank ANYONE for using abusive language and offending me !!!
 
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Bare hyggelig. Nå er det kvelden for meg :)
 

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myhken said:
hackerman1 said:
myhken said:
thanks, i have seen that post.
but, that was posted "Monday, September 20, 2010 7:31 PM"
which means Mike wrote that BEFORE the latest changes, (2 / 5 keys for ALL)...

maybe that have been changed too...
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I can not see any reason why MS will change the numbers of activations per key. The only program at Microsoft that has one activations per key is MSDNAA, and if you wait 90 days between each activation, you can activate MSDNAA keys more then once also.

But if you want to be paranoid, and spread rumors, then keep it up. They had not changed the numbers yesterday. And if anybody wants, I can run a new test, activating all 9 computers with a new key. We can wait a day or two so we are sure all changes to Technet is finish.
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i just saw the above in your post.....

"But if you want to be paranoid, and spread rumors, then keep it up." ???

i´m ASKING, for correct information !
is that "spreading rumors" ???

Mike posted a week ago....
with all the changes that has happened, do you seriuosly mean it´s wrong to ask ?

i had not seen the text above, when i posted "Mange takk Kenneth !" ("thanks a lot Kenneth !", in english) in
http://www.sevenforums.com/982203-post276.html

of course, i do NOT thank ANYONE for using abusive language and offending me !!!
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hackerman1: Sorry for that, but I is following 6-7 forums and all post rumors that they have read on another forum, and suddenly it's the truth. My point was that Mike Kinsman know what he is talking about, and I don't think his info from the 20.09.10 has changed.
As I told you the only program in Microsoft's that has one activation for one key is MSDNAA. And I do not think Technet will be so restrictive.

The BizSpark program reduced all their keys to 2 several months ago, but still you get 10 activations per key, and based on that fact and the info from Mike, I'm pretty sure it will always be 10 activations per key.
Remember on a normal Retail key, paid for in the store, you get at least 5 online activations, and more by the phone.

I can send Mike a e-mail asking him, maybe he want to give a official reply on that question. Sorry to see that I got a warning for this..I have never got a warning on any forum I have been on, ever. So maybe sevenforums.com is not the place for me and my info, and I have many contacts, and I know much about Windows activations, Technet/MSDN/MSDNAA/BizSpark etc.
 

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As much as I am and was bothered by this change in policy (and how it was done) I'm trying to keep it in perspective and wait to see if I actually need more activations than are currently available...and whether they will truly deny me more if I request.

That said, I find myself being very hesitant to install a particular combination of software packages, so I can switch them out and try a better configuration, because I'll run out sooooo much more quickly, doing that multiple times on multiple machines.

I'd rather not have to worry about this, since I *used* to have five times as many activations available to me.

Funky lil pickle this is.
 

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