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Windows 7: Technet Plus changed and Reduced number of Keys to 5

22 Sep 2010   #131
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

i didn't harvest (and am kicking myself for it) - but why is harvesting so bad??

you paid for them, you're perfectly entitled to have them.

harvesting isn't bad, it's selling keys on ebay that's bad - so why didn't m$ punish those pirates, rather than everybody?

paraphrasing someone else on some other forum: "Well at least it's clear now, we don't trust microsoft, and they don't trust us."


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22 Sep 2010   #132
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
I'm going to say this and I don't care ...

I'm p!ssed everyone 'harvested' all those keys they won't use and just made it look like we're all pirates and y'all have helped to make it hard on the rest of us that have abided by the rules, I wish there were a way for MS to deal with that side of it so we didn't have to pay for your actions; y'all deserve what you get but I don't.
And my "I don't care" reply is...
When I got my 'script, June of 2009, I got, or "harvested", the 10 keys I was alloted for the various software versions, just as the rules allowed. To date I have activated 5 for Win7 Ultimate, and 5 for Win7 Professional at one time or another. The fact I haven't, and may never, use the other 5 does not make me a pirate, or even look like one.

I got the keys I paid for and it is my choice/need to use, or not.

If I were a pirate, I'd be Piggie the Pirate and I'd be cute!
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22 Sep 2010   #133
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
i didn't harvest (and am kicking myself for it) - but why is harvesting so bad??

harvesting isn't bad, it's selling keys on ebay that's bad - so why didn't m$ punish those pirates, rather than everybody?
Agreed that harvesting in and of itself isn't bad. Selling them, is obviously way out of line. But giving them away to friends, family, coworkers and such is also out of line.

From Microsoft's viewpoint, if a Technet subscription is opened up and a single key is retrieved...the software is likely being used by the person who bought it and all is well. If however, within days, all 10 keys are retrieved for multiple products....it might give the impression that the keys are being given away or sold.

Unfortunately in the software world, the measures taken against piracy are often most felt by those who are not pirating. the pirates simply work around the measure and go on stealing.

I still feel that with 2 keys and 10 activations...you MORE than get your monies worth out of $199 for a year subscription. You have to compare this against the cost of the retail software which is way more money.

I have an MSDN subscription at work, and I've only retrieved 1 key pretty much for the products that I need. Even though multiple keys are available, I don't see the need to run out and get all of them
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22 Sep 2010   #134
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I still feel that with 2 keys and 10 activations...you MORE than get your monies worth out of $199 for a year subscription. You have to compare this against the cost of the retail software which is way more money.
Well said, well put, so true.
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22 Sep 2010   #135
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 24c View Post

If I were a pirate, I'd be Piggie the Pirate and I'd be cute!
Like this one


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22 Sep 2010   #136
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 24c View Post

If I were a pirate, I'd be Piggie the Pirate and I'd be cute!
Like this one
With all due respect Doc, that is the wimpy little pig that cried wee wee wee all the way home. He'd suck as a pirate, I'd have the cute thing, as well as the cool thing going for me.

(Somebody else can have the humble thing)
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22 Sep 2010   #137
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 24c View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 24c View Post

If I were a pirate, I'd be Piggie the Pirate and I'd be cute!
Like this one
With all due respect Doc, that is the wimpy little pig that cried wee wee wee all the way home. He'd suck as a pirate, I'd have the cute thing, as well as the cool thing going for me.

(Somebody else can have the humble thing)
Here ya go!

Technet Plus changed and Reduced number of Keys to 5-capture.jpg


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22 Sep 2010   #138
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

That Be Me
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22 Sep 2010   #139
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 
The FACTS about the keys on the "NEW" Technet !

hi !

since ive been reading through ALL posts in the thread in the technet-forum, i have summarized all the important information.

this info comes from Michael G Kinsman MSFT, Moderator.
with some detailed explanations regarding my questions from Kenneth Myhre

Here are the "NEW" rules:


"The reduction is only for desktop version of Microsoft products, like Windows 7, Windows XP, Office 2007 and Office 2010. All other software has the same amount of keys as before."


"There is no official list of how many keys you get per product. But except the list under, you get 10 keys per product. And ONE MAK key per Windows Server 2008 and R2 product. And a MAK key for Vista Enterprise on Technet Pro (100 activations).

And here is my list with the number of keys per product that has changed the last week:
Office 2010 Standard - 2 or 5 keys.
Office 2010 Proplus - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Starter - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Starter N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Home Basic - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Home Premium - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Home Premium N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Professional - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Professional N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Ultimate - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Ultimate N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows 7 Enterprise - 500 activations only on Technet Pro (One MAK key = 500 activations) This MAK key also work on Win 7 Professional.
Office 2007 Standard - 2 or 5 keys.
Office 2007 Enterprise - 2 or 5 keys.
Office 2007 Ultimate - 2 or 5 keys.
Office 2007 Professional - 2 or 5 keys.
Office 2007 Professional Plus - 2 or 5 keys.
Access 2007 - 2 or 5 keys.
Access 2010 - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Home Edition - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Home Edition K - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Home Edition KN - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Tablet PC Edition - 10 keys.
Windows XP Professional - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Professional Edition K - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Professional Edition KN - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - 2 or 5 keys.
Windows XP Media Center Edition - 2 or 5 keys.

You understand that 2 keys = Technet Standard and 5 keys = Technet pro? So we are clear on that.

2 keys = 20 activations
5 keys = 50 activations

All other software gives you 10 keys. Or ONE MAK key with 500 activations (Server 2008 and R2) and 100 activations for Vista Enterprise (only on Technet Pro)"


"
Each MAK key has 500 activations. And you get:
Technet Pro:
  • Windows Server 2008: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key, DataCenter = 1 MAK key, Web and HPC = 1 MAK key. Total of 1.500 activations on Server 2008
  • Windows Server 2008 R2: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key, DataCenter = 1 MAK key, Web and HPC = 1 MAK key. Total of 1.500 activations on Server 2008 R2
  • Windows 7 Enterprise and Professional = 1 MAK key
  • Windows Vista Enterprise and Business = 1 MAK key (only 100 activations)
Technet Standard:
  • Windows Server 2008: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key, DataCenter = 1 MAK key. Total of 1.000 activation on Server 2008
  • Windows Server 2008 R2: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key.
So you can not say you don't get enough Windows Server activations. But on desktop software as Windows 7, Windows XP, Office 2007 and Office 2010 you get 2 x 10 or 5 x 10 activations at the max."

and, the keys will NOT expire when your subscription ends !

if you want check for yourself, then all "FACTS" is from about halfway-down in the page....

Technet Standard Keys



EDIT: if you reinstall fx. W7 or Office 2010 regularly within 30 days, then do NOT activate it....
the normal grace-period of 30 days can also be extended using "Rearm", so if you are smart you can save activations....
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22 Sep 2010   #140
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

Thank You hackerman1.

ETA - I cannot let the irony of someone named hackerman1 explaining the new TechNet facts pass w/o commnet. I know, I'm going straight to hell w/o the 200 dollars.
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