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Windows 7: Technet Plus changed and Reduced number of Keys to 5

23 Sep 2010   #191
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Play nice now people.

echrada, what is your plan for when Windows 8 comes around?


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23 Sep 2010   #192
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I firmly believe that time will tell!
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23 Sep 2010   #193
hpark21

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Got my email from them.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechNet
Dear Steven.

Thank you for your email.
The reduction of the keys provided on the Technet Download portal has been implemented by Microsoft from September 15, 2010 as additional security measures across subscription programs. Consequently the new policy in place enables access to a maximum of 5 keys for the Retail product for your Technet Professional subscription.
We did not take away any keys. Just the amount of keys available “ad hoc” via the portal has been reduced, all previously claimed keys are still available.
The reduction is due to an updated antipiracy policy. More information will be made available for all customers soon.

Please keep in mind that subscription keys are for testing and evaluation only.
If you have to de-/re-install test software frequently, you are welcome to do your installations without activation (= no key required). The majority of products will work for 30 or more days without any activation / key requirement at all.
If you have got further queries please feel free to contact us again. We wish you a good day.

Kind regards
Anette Löchte


Microsoft TechNet Program
mailto: technet@eu.subservices.com

For future contacts please use our webforms at https://microsoft.eu.subservices.com...ilcontact.aspx or for information about your subscription visit http://eu.technet.microsoft.com
Had to sign up to post this..

I got an e-mail from them when I requested 3 additional keys for 2 products that I maxed out at 5 and 6 keys. They flat out said "No, you can not have more keys" to that effect.

This is after their phone support told me "No problem, just request the keys via e-mail".

So, there, dispite what they "SAY", no more keys will be given to you.

However, they DID say there is possibility of "Resetting" the already activated keys so that the activation # will show as being 0. I do not know what the implication for that is for already activated boxes.

IF I was selling the keys, I would have already harvested all 10 right off the getgo so I won't be affected by this sneaky change in terms of contract. I would think only people who suffer from this seemingly draconian response to the pirates seems to be the people who has been harvesting the keys as they are needed.
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23 Sep 2010   #194
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I really hope that when windows 8 comes out, they make a public beta and RC1 release like they did with Windows 7 that lasts for nearly 1 year. That was a great way to get the masses test and figure out if the new release was for them.

With regards to activation, I also had them tell me for my company that if I hit my MAK key limit to call and they would likely just increase the # of activations or reset to zero.
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23 Sep 2010   #195
wirednuts

Win7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hpark21 View Post

IF I was selling the keys, I would have already harvested all 10 right off the getgo so I won't be affected by this sneaky change in terms of contract. I would think only people who suffer from this seemingly draconian response to the pirates seems to be the people who has been harvesting the keys as they are needed.

This is 100% spot-on nail on head. i didnt harvest all of my keys, just what i needed. which means i dont have any win7 ultimate keys left, and even though i can just start using the same key on different machines it is not what i thought i paid for. and its obvious to me that if i would have just hoarded as many as i could, i would have been better off now.
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23 Sep 2010   #196
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I just don't see the concern over "only" having 20 activations.
1). Seriously, how many computers are you guys "testing" on at home?
2). Don't you have some imaging software...so you can load to a machine and capture an image and then just later redeploy that image already activated.
3). Do you really even have to activate at all? I don't with my MSDN keys. With 30 days and 3 rearms..I get 120 days. I'm never testing anything for more than 4 months straight.

To me, people are getting really worked up over a policy change which I think in the end, won't amount to a problem for hardly anybody.

Edit: As far as I know, you don't get new keys when you renew or a new year starts.
Ans #1 - I agree if you are a home user, however I am a corp user and sometimes we are testing in many different agencies, buildings and around the world. So being restricted to 5 has already changed our R&D model.
Ans #2 - Imaging and then using on different hardware prompts the newly imaged machine to re-activate (Windows 7 and Office 2010). It is smart and knows.
Ans #3 - Yes many times we use the 120 days, but sometimes we need longer than that. There may be many issues that cannot be resolved in that short of a time, hardware, vendors, special software, re-working existing software, other servers that have to be replaced or updated before you can do real testing.

Just my 2 cents.
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24 Sep 2010   #197
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

This may have been posted earlier in this thread. If not, here's an article by The Register: Microsoft secretly yanks TechNet product keys
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24 Sep 2010   #198
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Next thing you know, they'll be taking Technet away completely and just selling $99 "developer" copies of Windows, where a dev "only" has to pay $99 for each key. And who's going to get burned by it? I'll give you a hint: it won't be the pirates.
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24 Sep 2010   #199
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme View Post
Next thing you know, they'll be taking Technet away completely and just selling $99 "developer" copies of Windows, where a dev "only" has to pay $99 for each key. And who's going to get burned by it? I'll give you a hint: it won't be the pirates.

"Shhhhh -- You aren't supposed to RELEASE that yet -- this is due for implementation on Jan 1 2011 as we have to sucker all our EXISTING suscribers first".

Actually I think their way of "Anti Piracy" is going the WRONG way -- reducing to just TWO keys for the STANDARD subscription should see some of the more well known places significantly increase their activity.

It's been proved OVER and OVER again -- in fact Ad Nauseam that the more expensive and difficult to obtain you make a product the more the Pirates work at it -- Music industry a great case in point until some people saw sense at selling tracks at 50 - 99 cents a track.

I really wonder who works at these giant corporations -- even your local friendly Gorilla in the Zoo could work this one will just cause a MASSIVE increase in Piracy -- and with W7 really stable these days you could use it for YEARS without needing updates -- so no detection of "This softwre is Not genuine" type problems.

Incidentally one of the MOST Pirated pieces of Software is PHOTOSHOP due mainly to its HUGE price.

I paid for mine via legal upgrade but when a brand new copy can cost more than your ENTIRE PC
you can see how a whole industry gets spawned.

There has to be a SENSIBLE compromise between REWARD for intellectual property (W7, Photoshop or whatever) and the price charged to customers.

However we are veering away from the central issue of MS sneaking in a change without informing their customers.

This WILL spawn Piracy big time -- just wait and see.



Cheers
jimbo
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24 Sep 2010   #200
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
However we are veering away from the central issue of MS sneaking in a change without informing their customers.
Cheers
jimbo
I think all here agree that MS might have handled this situation better.

MAYBE, the reason they didn't notify anyone was to prevent a run on the keys that had not been claimed. Many have mentioned they did get all the keys they were entitled to. Less keys obtained, less keys MS has to worry about. Just a possible explanation. Kind of like the Police Department not announcing they'll be at xxx St. on Monday looking for drug dealers, yyy St. on Tuesday, and on Friday they'll be watching the house on the corner of ddd St. and ggg St. for illegal consumption of Famous Amos chocolate cookies.

Just cuz we don't know MS plan, doesn't mean there isn't one.

IMO, you'll never stamp out piracy, there are bad people in this world who do bad things on a constant basis, regardless of the circumstances.
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