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Windows 7: Technet Plus changed and Reduced number of Keys to 5

21 Sep 2010   #71
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Just checked mine. The Ultimate that I collected 10 keys originally show all 10 but say 10 /5. When I tried to get Starter, Home Basic, & Home Prem. I could only get 5 / 5 of each version.


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21 Sep 2010   #72
smarteyeball

 
 

I let my sub lapse - this certainly doesn't inspire me to renew
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21 Sep 2010   #73
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Found this thread on the Technet forum.

Quote:
The official statement from the TechNet Product Management team is:

TechNet Subscriptions provide the earliest access to products for IT Professionals. The license doesn’t specify access to a specific number of product keys. The policy regarding volume of product keys allowed for the products that have key limits was set based on typical key volumes required for software evaluation in most IT Professional work situations.
The moderator jumps in with some answers about half way down.

No answer to the last question there, but echrada just answered it, Keys are still usable after the subscription has ended.

My sub ends tomorrow, was planning to renew, but now........not sure.
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21 Sep 2010   #74
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
Actually I suspect that most people didn't realize that each product could be activated 10 times so there probably isn't TOO much difference from the old way -- actually it makes MORE sense to do it this way in any case.

My Windows Enterprise only allows 1 set of keys but it has "multiple or Unlimited" activations so no change there.

My gripe isn't with the POLICY per se but the CHANGE AFTER one had signed up to a subscription.

It technically makes NO difference to me but if I sign up for something I don't expect it to change half way through.

Actually all my keys have been reset to ZERO so I don't really care as I've got the old numbers (installed on various machines) and can get NEW ones.

I think a lot of people who might be complaining are those using the Software on a "semi permanent way" to install W7 on various machines in a family etc which is cheaper than buying a Family pack or multiple copies of W7.

THIS IS NOT the purpose of technet subscriptions. I use them a LOT because I'm doing a LOT of testing on Virtual machines etc etc.

As I said my gripe is the sudden change of policy WITHOUT PRIOR NOTIFICATION to existing suscribers even if in practice it won't make any difference.

Cheers
jimbo
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21 Sep 2010   #75
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

As I said my gripe is the sudden change of policy WITHOUT PRIOR NOTIFICATION to existing suscribers even if in practice it won't make any difference.

Cheers
jimbo

For once I actually agree with Jimbo.





That is the thing that is angering me, though I will continue to renew when necessary because I too do a lot of installs in VB and besides you still can't beat this deal even at only 5 keys.


The whole "in the middle of the night ... "
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21 Sep 2010   #76
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Why do the majority have to suffer for the minority? MS walking all over us. I don't think that anybody has to take it lying down.
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21 Sep 2010   #77
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

I have all 10 of my keys, all of my TechNet programs backed up to an external drive, image file of all the base installs... the keys will continue to validate after expiration of the subscription .... life is good...
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21 Sep 2010   #78
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

That's the way it always seems to be, a few ruin it for the majority.

Searching today, it's being mentioned that a lot of TechNet keys have been sold by unscrupulous individuals, causing this reaction.


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21 Sep 2010   #79
myzr7

Windows 7 Ulti. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

As I said my gripe is the sudden change of policy WITHOUT PRIOR NOTIFICATION to existing suscribers even if in practice it won't make any difference.

Cheers
jimbo

For once I actually agree with Jimbo.





That is the thing that is angering me, though I will continue to renew when necessary because I too do a lot of installs in VB and besides you still can't beat this deal even at only 5 keys.


The whole "in the middle of the night ... "
I agree with Jimbo and Ted. Its like I told my boss one time "I don't like to be lied to or screwed with." And he said " well thats to bad " Right I don't work there anymore
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21 Sep 2010   #80
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It really is disappointing that Microsoft decided to change this program overnight without any communication to it's customers.

However, if they were to announce it ahead of time...then all existing customers would have flocked to the website, retrieved every key they could and and then do whatever they wish with the keys. Thus, taking the existing problem and making it even worse.

The real problem as I see it, is that Microsoft stupidly sold these subscriptions to people who were not IT professionals, but rather just wanted to do as many installs as possible with the smallest amount of money. I don't doubt in any way that many people who subscribed, also gave away some of their keys to family members, friends, etc to use. And some, probably sold keys via eBay and other outlets.

So, while some will view Microsoft changing the count from 10 to 2, as a breach of contract...Microsoft could probably point the finger right back at the customer saying that the use of the software on their everyday machine does not constitute testing..but rather an attempt to gain a license at a reduced price and that the customer has also not held up their part of the bargain.

For me, when it comes to using software from MSDN or Technet for testing....it's rare for me to even activate the product at all. Having technet or MSDN just provides a clean location to get the software and with most software going 30+ days (or up to 120 days with rearm)...this is more than sufficient for me to complete whatever testing that it is that I am trying to do.

For example, let's say that I buy a new computer tomorrow...this computer is intended to be my web surfing, email reading and game playing box. Perhaps I take a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium from Technet and install it to the machine to ensure that everything is working properly and all hardware is supported. So, maybe over the course of a week or two..I load up a few things and verify that everything functions. At this point, I think the "right" thing to do...is to remove the Technet copy of the software....and instead purchase a standard retail license for Windows 7 Home Professional and install that software onto this machine....I used the Technet version to test....and I'm using the standard license to continue using the software perpetually for every day use. And I bet that the overwhelming majority of Technet users here would vehemently disagree with this statement in bold red and they would not want to spend more money on additional licensing.
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