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Windows 7: New Bill Would Require U.S. ISPs to Block Pirate Sites

27 Sep 2010   #131
SoLoR

Windows 7 SP1 x64 build 7601.21701
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by geekfreak View Post
fairclough is right. sarcasm or not the comment was unwarranted.
I kinda tryed to imply on silly US internal politics. I actualy agree with him Lets make rich people even more rich since they are paying for our reelection instead of addressing real issues. But considering im not from US i dont care much, but thing what bugs me is, if this bill passes and its potentialy a success, something similar will sooner or later come to Europe as well. I mean visiting torrent sites ITS NOT illigal so why block it? Its almost like people that read some islamic magazines are considerd terrorists even if they didnt do anything illigal. Oh well... thing is illigal or not i simply cant do without torrents, because one reason and that is tv shows... you think i will wait a year+ that my favorite show comes on local tv? heh!


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27 Sep 2010   #132
DarkDavil

7 x64/ Back-Track 4
 
 

Again, as many people stated on the first page, won't do anything. Hackers, and big-deal, The Pirate Bay is simply one of hundreds of thousands of sites out there. And what about all of those private sites?(Who will take those down...?)
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27 Sep 2010   #133
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

There should also be limits to those boundaries.

Freedom of Speech ain't free when you start allowing gov't to control it in any form.

Power Corrupts, Absolute Power may not always corrupt absolutely, but can be abused to great extents.
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27 Sep 2010   #134
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BCXtreme View Post

In my opinion, the entire DMCA needs to be repealed and replaced with a system where intellectual property is handled just like physical property, without all of these additional complications. You shouldn't be able to restrict someone's legal use of a CD anymore that you can restrict someone's legal use of a stove, a cup, or anything else.
Agree with you except this last point. If you give someone a stove or a cup or anything else physical in that sense, unless you have a duplicate, it means you outright surrender your ownership of it to them. If you copy music and, say, place it online, you still have your copy while thousands or millions of others can get it, too. Not only that, but a stove is built to do one thing, which is to cook food. Yes, you have gas, electric, glass, ceramic, whatever. And you've got different manufacturers. But unlike, for example, a song, no one constructs a stove that is unlike any other stove ever created in human history. What is the gas range equivalent of Lady Gaga?

Publishing people, movie people, song people - most of them are still clueless about how to adapt to digital, or they are reluctant, or both. At the same time, I think there needs to be a distinction between what they produce and what non-DR people produce. I don't have the golden answer, but I don't think it takes a genius to see how customer behavior has changed in the past 10 years. It's the producers who, for the most part, still live in the stone age, not the buyers.
What I mean is simply that you should have unrestrained jurisdiction over what you do with the CD that you bought. And the analogy does hold water, because you can't make duplicates of a stove and starting selling/redistributing your own Kenmore stoves. So you shouldn't be able to do that with digital content either. However, you COULD loan your stove to a friend (though it would be physically difficult to do so), sell it, modify it, or do anything you wished for the purposes of personal use. I'm saying we should have the same jurisdiction over, not the music itself, but the copies of it that we bought.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
There should also be limits to those boundaries.

Freedom of Speech ain't free when you start allowing gov't to control it in any form.

Power Corrupts, Absolute Power may not always corrupt absolutely, but can be abused to great extents.
No. Absolute power always corrupts absolutely. You cannot find a single instance in history where absolute power didn't absolutely corrupt its holder.
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27 Sep 2010   #135
madtownidiot

 

Piracy is defined as
1) making copies of digital media explicitly for the purpose of distribution without compensating the copyright holder
2) possession of a copy of digital media the owner wasn't compensated for
3) robbery and murder at sea

Anyone here see the incongruity here?
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27 Sep 2010   #136
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Piracy is defined as
1) making copies of digital media explicitly for the purpose of distribution without compensating the copyright holder
2) possession of a copy of digital media the owner wasn't compensated for
3) robbery and murder at sea

Anyone here see the incongruity here?
It is a very unusual term to use. I'm not sure why we ever called it that in the first place. Of course, it might just be reflective of the digital media industries' overreaction to unauthorized redistribution...
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27 Sep 2010   #137
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64
 
 

The word "piracy" has been a word used in conjunction with intellectual property for hundreds of years. The earliest example in the OED is from 1654. (Had to look that up, I ain't that anal.)
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27 Sep 2010   #138
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
The word "piracy" has been a word used in conjunction with intellectual property for hundreds of years. The earliest example in the OED is from 1654. (Had to look that up, I ain't that anal.)
It's still kinda weird. The two meanings of the word are vastly different in intensity.
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27 Sep 2010   #139
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Piracy is defined as
1) making copies of digital media explicitly for the purpose of distribution without compensating the copyright holder
2) possession of a copy of digital media the owner wasn't compensated for
3) robbery and murder at sea

Anyone here see the incongruity here?
They need to add,,,,,

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The corporate practice of artificially disabling or limiting hardware in order to ensure more profits by creating a monopoly on the software it can use is guaranteed to result in inferior products, making them more likely to fail. The idea that it is somehow wrong to modify your personal property to suit your own purpose ...ridiculous
You could call that a form of Piracy.
Can anyone say Apple? Oh, silly me,, Apple hardware doesn't much exist anymore.. Duh!
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27 Sep 2010   #140
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

OBJECTION!

People will seek measure to circumvent such action! I, among others, will be one to do so. This is ridiculous, what is next, limits on which doors you walk through and foods you eat?

Bloody hell...

Hm, perhaps a laptop could be of some use. Yes... excellent... excellent indeed... good...
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