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Windows 7: New Bill Would Require U.S. ISPs to Block Pirate Sites

27 Sep 2010   #141
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote:
which doors you walk through and foods you eat
Too late,, already being done.

You will see.


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28 Sep 2010   #142
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Piracy is defined as
1) making copies of digital media explicitly for the purpose of distribution without compensating the copyright holder
2) possession of a copy of digital media the owner wasn't compensated for
3) robbery and murder at sea

Anyone here see the incongruity here?

Hi there
I think most people know what the law SAYS -- that's not the main issue but it's the OAFISH way this sort of B/S is implemented and of course the total unenforceability of it.

For example I am technically committing an offence by lending a CD or DVD to someone or someone is also commiting an offence in say recording a BBC TV program for me that I am unable to get in Country XXXX - EVEN IF I HAVE PAID FOR THE BBC TV LICENCE FEE.

It's THIS type of Bovine scatology together with slick swarmy corporate Lawyers that put the whole thing into disrepute.

I'm sure if you purchased a great song would you feel guilty in giving it to a work colleague to listen to -- I'm sure you wouldn't.

How many of us have swapped Books etc etc in the past.

There's a difference between SENSIBLE ENFORCEABLE legislation and stuff that is basically PURE bovine scatology which anyone with even a pea size brain could get round.

Cheers
jimbo
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28 Sep 2010   #143
Layback Bear

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709
 
 

SENSIBLE ENFORCEABLE as jimbo45 has posted is the big problem. What governments I have did a little looking into have no sensibility. They don't know or have any idea what is or is not. IMHO they will not spend the time to do the research needed to understand this problem. If by chance one worries about there young ones, well they are your kids take control. It is not my job or the governments job to do this. I or anybody else can or should do this for you. Now if by chance parents don't have the knowledge to monitor or stop things they don't want there kid to see, all you have to do is come here and ask for help. We are here for you.
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28 Sep 2010   #144
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

A new law would create more government jobs. More government employees would have to be hired for enforcement purposes and support positions. Likewise, the ISPs would have to hire more people. The IRS would have to amend their already voluminous tax code to cover these newly created positions and THEY would have to hire more IRS employees. All of these newly created positions and collections of penalties by the IRS will stimulate our economy. And so on and so forth. What's not to like about this proposal??

***Sarcasm intended***
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28 Sep 2010   #145
toddincabo

windows 7 x 64 ult
 
 
What?

These old farts probably don't even know how to access the internet.

I wonder who the companies are that are bribing these guys this time .
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29 Sep 2010   #146
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Don't worry, it won't be long now. I mean we do have real bonified, sanctioned, actually existing in the real world, present and accounted for Green Police.

They can search your trash and write tickets for fines for not recycling properly.
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29 Sep 2010   #147
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Actually the doctrine of "Fair Use" is still alive and kicking (barely).

Even though copyright law says you technically can't lend or even resell a book or DVD. The courts would NEVER prosecute you on it because that type of behavior falls under "Fair use".

In fact you CAN lend software as well. As long as you lend it like a book or DVD. That is as long as the other person is using it, you have removed it from your posession (and computer) entirely. (Additional license restrictoins not withstaqnding and according to local law)
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29 Sep 2010   #148
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Hm, even if they somehow stop P2P file-sharing, there's still "warez". Hah!
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29 Sep 2010   #149
bobtran

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Much to do about nothing, This will come to a quiet end in a sub-committee somewhere as these kind of political payoffs usually do.

Even if passed it is essentially unenforceable as these very Senators and Representatives know only too well.

That makes this bill a smoke screen for political purposes and as such beneath a sensible persons notice but it makes a great sound bite.

I'm sure that the Music, Movie, Software industry would like this but they are the only ones pushing it.....Just more DRM at the peoples expense, if they want enforcement then THEY should pay for it, not the taxpayers.
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30 Sep 2010   #150
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobtran View Post
Much to do about nothing, This will come to a quiet end in a sub-committee somewhere as these kind of political payoffs usually do.

Even if passed it is essentially unenforceable as these very Senators and Representatives know only too well.

That makes this bill a smoke screen for political purposes and as such beneath a sensible persons notice but it makes a great sound bite.

I'm sure that the Music, Movie, Software industry would like this but they are the only ones pushing it.....Just more DRM at the peoples expense, if they want enforcement then THEY should pay for it, not the taxpayers.
Hi all

This is just the propverbial storm in a tea cup.

Has anyone holed the Pirate Bay beneath the waterline or other well know p2p sites.

Has anyone found a way to stop the use of anonymous Proxies / private vpns.

If such glaring loopholes like these are essentially unfixable they should just get on to something more pressing to their taxpayers REAL needs and stop wasting money in spouting loads of hot air and probably wasting HUGE amounts of paper in minutes and memoranda before endless subcommittees probably staffed by another load of total nobodies at vast expense too.

Cheers
jimbo
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