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Windows 7: New Bill Would Require U.S. ISPs to Block Pirate Sites

26 Sep 2010   #41
Colonel Travis

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I used to work for a member of Congress. This bill would not be used to take down just pirate sites. It could be used to shut down any site that the U.S. says violates U.S. Code Title 17, which includes U.S. government works, questions of fair use, etc. It also means the U.S. gov't. could shove its nose into ICANN and start dictating who gets domains and who gets them taken away. It means taxpayer dollars could go to public lawyers on behalf of private companies who seek private damages. It means ISPs are under more control of the federal government. This kind of bill was shot down a few years ago. Now there's a president and Congress who salivate at having this kind of control. Trust me, I've worked with these people - they eat this *bleep* up.

Not a fan of piracy, I'm not a black helicopter guy, but I'm not a fan of this particular bill.


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26 Sep 2010   #42
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by geekfreak View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
It does depend on what type of porn though.
Certain types should not only be shut down, but go after & prosecute those responsible.
(Im not talking about typical porn stuff, I mean the sickos out there & the illegal type)

Things like that, no issues or complaints here.

Just don't block something because you disagree or dont like it.
you do know you contradict yourself right? rather we like or don't like a certain type of porn it still is a matter of personal expression, therefore protected by our right to free speech. i will agree there is a lot of porn out there that i would love to see banned, but i will not infringe on someones right to free speech.

I agree there is some I do not think should be out there and think its simply disgusting.
But it is not illegal, and to each their own. It is a free country afterall.


What I was refering to the type this IS illegal. Like with kids etc.
That type of stuff is not only sick, but certainly crossing the line.

Sorry if I wasn't clear in what I meant.
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26 Sep 2010   #43
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Pirating wouldn't be so bad if we were not being charged out our *** for everything. Adobe's Photoshop and Microsoft Windows is a good example.
However, for a second consider that if Adobe Photoshop was not pirated and not used by tons of people....would Adobe continue to charge such a high price? I'd say if die-hard "pirated" photoshop users were to turn their nose up at Adobe and make a stand by using something entirely different (like The Gimp) or get behind a competitor that Adobe might actually be forced to make a change. As it stands now though, they make their money from business users and have the benefit of a zillion freeloaders also using their software, sharing tips and tricks online, buying books and such and developing community awareness of their product. Therefore they can continue to charge businesses a fortune and go home with their wallets fat.


The only reason that I choose to discuss piracy is that I think somethings presenting alternative views or thinking about things can sometimes cause people to question what they are doing. And with pirated software and such, often times it is hosted on sites with spyware/malware etc...so trying to keep people from accessing these sites by discouraging piracy might even make more home computers less vulnerable to these risks.
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26 Sep 2010   #44
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I'd say if die-hard "pirated" photoshop users were to turn their nose up at Adobe and make a stand by using something entirely different (like The Gimp) or get behind a competitor that Adobe might actually be forced to make a change.
In a perfect world that may be a valid path for everyone but not everyone can use other programs such as gimp as effectivly as they can Photoshop. There lies the problem.
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26 Sep 2010   #45
lorddenis

 

you realy think that adobe would cheapen his products if more people would use legal version ? they only care for the money they get. and about microsoft i think that there wouldnt be any pirated windows on any pc if games and sofware would work on ubunto (linox).
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26 Sep 2010   #46
Wishmaster

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I'd say if die-hard "pirated" photoshop users were to turn their nose up at Adobe and make a stand by using something entirely different (like The Gimp) or get behind a competitor that Adobe might actually be forced to make a change.
In a perfect world that may be a valid path for everyone but not everyone can use other programs such as gimp as effectivly as they can Photoshop. There lies the problem.
But arent there other alternatives in PS family?

Sure, not everyone wants to pay $600+ for a software suite.

But there are others, like Elements that offers most of the core functions for $100 or less.
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26 Sep 2010   #47
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lorddenis View Post
you realy think that adobe would cheapen his products if more people would use legal version ? they only care for the money they get. and about microsoft i think that there wouldnt be any pirated windows on any pc if games and sofware would work on ubunto (linox).
I do believe that if software vendors made their products a lot cheaper and actually worth the cost then people would buy it. That is my opinion however.

As for the comment regarding PC Games, I do not think that everyone who pirates Windows does it because they cannot play games on Linux. Besides, if they pirated Windows to begin with wouldn't they just pirate the game to if it worked on Linux?
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26 Sep 2010   #48
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I think that applies to Games as well.

If they make a good Game, the majority of people have no problems buying it.
Well, at least for me anyway. I have no issue putting out the $$ for a game if its really good.

But there are a lot of crap games out there, that aren't worth nearly what they sell for.
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26 Sep 2010   #49
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
As it stands now though, they make their money from business users and have the benefit of a zillion freeloaders also using their software, sharing tips and tricks online, buying books and such and developing community awareness of their product. Therefore they can continue to charge businesses a fortune and go home with their wallets fat.
No, Adobe charges what it charges because of:
1.) The cost of production
2.) The market value price

If people stopped buying Adobe products, the price would go down. It's got zero to do with piracy and everything to do with what they produce and the market's willingness to buy it at an agreed price.
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26 Sep 2010   #50
lorddenis

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lorddenis View Post
you realy think that adobe would cheapen his products if more people would use legal version ? they only care for the money they get. and about microsoft i think that there wouldnt be any pirated windows on any pc if games and sofware would work on ubunto (linox).
I do believe that if software vendors made their products a lot cheaper and actually worth the cost then people would buy it. That is my opinion however.

As for the comment regarding PC Games, I do not think that everyone who pirates Windows does it because they cannot play games on Linux. Besides, if they pirated Windows to begin with wouldn't they just pirate the game to if it worked on Linux?
i beliave that to. but even if evry person would buy a certain product they wouldt make it sheaper.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
I think that applies to Games as well.

If they make a good Game, the majority of people have no problems buying it.
Well, at least for me anyway. I have no issue putting out the $$ for a game if its really good.

But there are a lot of crap games out there, that aren't worth nearly what they sell for.
agreat with that. but the problem is that you dont know wich game you will like and wich one you will not like. and with the prices so high!

its like you see this trailer for a game/ movie and its awsome and then the real thing its bad...
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