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Windows 7: Change to 'Bios' will make for PCs that boot in seconds

11 Nov 2010   #61
shaunk37

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Sounds good to me. Does that apply to macs too or do macs already have that?


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11 Nov 2010   #62
madtownidiot

 

Yes they do.
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14 Nov 2010   #63
mrmurder1975

windows 7 home premium 64bit sp1
 
 

"At the moment it can be 25-30 seconds of boot time before you see the first bit of OS sign-on''.


i wish!!
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14 Nov 2010   #64
HQuest

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 | OSX Lion 10.7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation View Post
Having read through the whole thread... I sorta see madtownidiot's point. If for whatever reason (hardware failure, malware, PEBKAC...) the UEFI gets corrupted, I really hope there's a fallback somewhere kinda like the BIOS now so you won't be totally screwed. You'd just stick a bootable disc/usb and initiate repairs like we already do for hdds with problems. Or maybe have the ability to revert any UEFI configuration changes to the last known good one.
In fact, yes, there is a fallback. Taking Dell Optiplex machines as example -- I was testing exactly this scenario last week --, if you manage to screw your UEFI (took me a while to achieve that), the machine searches for a valid UEFI copy in a CD/DVD/USB device and, if found, it recovers its main copy from this recovery device. No data had been lost so far, and I was totally happy to see how easy this recovery was. Differently from the current BIOSes, which if screwed, you may end up with a dead machine, unless you can remove the damaged BIOS EEPROM and putting on a working and already powered on machine -- not by any chance a simple task an average user can do.
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14 Nov 2010   #65
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HQuest View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Trucidation View Post
Having read through the whole thread... I sorta see madtownidiot's point. If for whatever reason (hardware failure, malware, PEBKAC...) the UEFI gets corrupted, I really hope there's a fallback somewhere kinda like the BIOS now so you won't be totally screwed. You'd just stick a bootable disc/usb and initiate repairs like we already do for hdds with problems. Or maybe have the ability to revert any UEFI configuration changes to the last known good one.
In fact, yes, there is a fallback. Taking Dell Optiplex machines as example -- I was testing exactly this scenario last week --, if you manage to screw your UEFI (took me a while to achieve that), the machine searches for a valid UEFI copy in a CD/DVD/USB device and, if found, it recovers its main copy from this recovery device. No data had been lost so far, and I was totally happy to see how easy this recovery was. Differently from the current BIOSes, which if screwed, you may end up with a dead machine, unless you can remove the damaged BIOS EEPROM and putting on a working and already powered on machine -- not by any chance a simple task an average user can do.
Great to know, thanks!

~Lordbob
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14 Nov 2010   #66
funkybassist

Windows 7 Fire x32
 
 

Sounds sweet!!!
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14 Nov 2010   #67
Trucidation

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Great to know, thanks!
Ditto, thanks HQuest!
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14 Nov 2010   #68
madtownidiot

 

Having researched this further, it really isn't too hard to back up uefi. But it will put me out of a good portion of my business if manufacturers don't provide uefi downloads for machines they decide to stop supporting as soon as the warranty expires. Get a machine with dead HDD.. and if you can't find an efi image for that system, it might as well be used as a doorstop.
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03 Jan 2011   #69
si8mon

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Well Sandy Bridge has been released and with that MSI and Asus have released all there ps7 boards with UEFI.

Here's the Asus UEFI review.

There isn't one out yet for MSI's UEFI.
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03 Jan 2011   #70
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by si8mon View Post
Well Sandy Bridge has been released and with that MSI and Asus have released all there ps7 boards with UEFI.

Here's the Asus UEFI review.

There isn't one out yet for MSI's UEFI.
No way, when I first saw that screen shot, it looked like something from a movie. Looks way too graphical.

Heh, guess the movies have slight truth to them.
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