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Windows 7: Microsoft slams OEM crapware

11 Oct 2010   #41
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Also, keep in mind that many of those things on the Sony are 3rd party drivers and utilities for the hardware that is installed on the computer. I just choose to use the Windows 7 drivers as long as they work...but it's possible the 3rd party ones might give slightly more performance.
That's exactly the point of manufacturers and their brands, installing their own bloatwares and 3rd party drivers for the machine running smooth.

"but it's possible the 3rd party ones might give slightly more performance"
Sad to hear but it is damn true!

So you'll have to choose which are staying and those needing being pulled out.

Lucky confusing situation for those asking questions on how to uninstall ALL THAT CRAP & BLOAT!!!!

Those aware could better advise them, now!

I used Compaq, Hp, Acer and all are built the same manner, hard to use only the MS drivers on any of kind of OS to keep it stable for a long time.
At least, a quater of their Crapwares/Bloatwares are needed.


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11 Oct 2010   #42
si8mon

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Their marketing strategy is"if they can't spend at least $2000.. f@^% em."
LOL, but it is the sad truth.
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11 Oct 2010   #43
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
Third party drivers etc are OK -- It's all the TRIAL and BLOATWARE that usually gets installed on OEM supplied machines too that I think Microsoft was objecting to.

I recently bought a decent Netbook in PC World ( OK a crap store but I needed the machine IMMEDIATELY) which had W7 Starter edition on it -- but it was FULL of "Trial Ware" such as Ebay / facebook and so much Utter junk I can understand MS's annoyance.

I re formatted the disk and installed W7 Pro -- a much better option even for a netbook.

If the EU made sure that anybody who buys a PC had a RIGHT to a "Bog standard" INSTALL OS disk whether a DVD or a USB stick rather than waste their time on worrying about giving users the right to choose which browser to install we might get somewhere.

I still think it should be ILLEGAL to sell a computer with a pre-installed OS WITHOUT including a bootable media containing the OS.

These hidden partitions also reduce the amount of available disk space and also if you DO use them they just re-load all the trial and crapware that was on the machine when you got it from the store.

MS is 100% correct on this one -- it's been a LONG time since I've said that BTW.

Cheers
jimbo
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11 Oct 2010   #44
madtownidiot

 

There are quite a few factory driver downloads from that include crapware...some Dell and HP wireless drivers don't come without the WLAN utility or "wireless assistant" for example.. at least some of them can be separated from the bloat prior to installing by using 7zip to extract only the driver.. using the same method that I use to install Itunes without bonjour and the other bloat it contains. But that only works when for downloads that come in MSI form
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11 Oct 2010   #45
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Funny how they can slam it yet allow it to be put on there. They could have OEM manufacturers leave that out if they want to sell Windows.
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11 Oct 2010   #46
SledgeDG

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

If 7z doesn't work, I would give UNIExtract a try (esp. for those nasty Inno Setup.exe and similar others). Granted it doesn't unpack them all but sure a good portion more than 7z alone.
HERE is a list of supported formats.

-DG
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11 Oct 2010   #47
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

nvm
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11 Oct 2010   #48
madtownidiot

 

I've checked out uniextract.. in combination with exetomsi converter, it works pretty well for repackaging some installers without the ask toolbar and other crap that most freeware downloads include
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11 Oct 2010   #49
SledgeDG

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

I use that puppy for several years now and it unpacked quite a few installers for me. Only thing: uniextract has the bad habit of taking over all involved formats during installation if you don't pay attention

-DG
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11 Oct 2010   #50
LiquidSnak

W7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
Funny how they can slam it yet allow it to be put on there. They could have OEM manufacturers leave that out if they want to sell Windows.
But then they would have to offer OEM support!
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