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Windows 7: Limewire Shut Down

28 Oct 2010   #61
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

What i don't get if alot of you are against pirate sites how come you all know so many of them i never heard of piratebay.com till now lol


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28 Oct 2010   #62
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
hahaha he said drive by viruses i didnt know viruses did gang warfare but that was a good line though
Actually the "Drive by" infections are the biggest source of viruses and the hardest to defend against since the target site looks often just like the "real one" you are trying to visit.

It's not so much downloading P2P material but browsers executing malicious code buried on "rogue" sites that causes probably 85% of current infections with the other 15% being caused by "traditional means" such as infected files etc.

I'll bet there are ZILLIONS of torrent users --not getting into the wrongs or rights of these BTW who have downloaded loads and loads of files and have never been infected with a virus.

The real issue in all this is to understand who the ACTUAL ENEMY is.

Do people really imagine that a load of kids who want to share some of their music tracks have either the time or the skill to infect these before uploading to various file share sites.

In any case if file sharing is technically illegal how do YOU TUBE or FACEBOOK continue to operate -- uploading Videos on to YOU TUBE is also technically file sharing.

Anyway I think on this topic 'nuf said as whatever the idiotic US court system decides there isn't ANY technical way of carrying out an order without shutting down the entire internet.

I'm NOT advocating piracy -- but I don't see anything wrong with sharing some of my music, books or DVD's with colleagues whether or not I'm sharing the physical medium or a digital copy.

I've done it loads of times and will continue to do it. I loaned a copy of the first 10 inch 78 RPM vinyl record I ever bought -- was Doris Day singing "Que Sera" had to other people years and years ago and borrowed stuff from them in return. (Anybody on these forums still remember 78 RPM s and Extended play 45 RPM vinyl records -- the 33 1/3 albums are still relatively common even these days but singles use to come on 78 RPM 10 inch vinyl and then the smaller juke box versions on 45 RPM singles).

I'll continue to do it too -- the only difference today is that it's much easier as the stuff can be copied to a digital file and transmitted via Internet or email rather than have to give the physical medium away.

I don't condone pirating illegal software however -- a totally different issue.

Cheers
jimbo
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28 Oct 2010   #63
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

I just dont think people could really see the view of what pirating really is it is making money off of illegal products obtained without owners knowledge

not lending with free will

if you got a new music album due out next week and it has the full download available now then yes that is one way of pirating cause someone paid to leak the content so they can boost the user on the site and make money off of that etc

some sites purposly have infected java script that will immediatly send you to another page or to a would be solution for you getting the pop up in the first place


people who place viruses have agendas unfortunatly alot of us get caught in the web of someone else's mess and ussually the only thing you can do is fix it and move on hopefully
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28 Oct 2010   #64
MattRainier

7 Ultimate x64, Vista Ultimate x64, 7 Pro x64, XP Pro x86, Linux Mint Nadia Cinnamon
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidSnak View Post
Yeah, it's just that the torrent was always faster for me. A LOT faster.
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28 Oct 2010   #65
Bootz

Vista Business x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
What i don't get if alot of you are against pirate sites how come you all know so many of them i never heard of piratebay.com till now lol
I know right, i have never heard of piratebay.com either. I think everyone knows limewire though.

Even people that hardly know anyting about computers know you used to be able to get music off limewire, and viruses!

I wonder how many other sites are out there that dont get as much attention but doing the same illegal thing.
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28 Oct 2010   #66
OneSerious

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

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Please kindly post your address for all those on the Internet to see.
I'll stop by, "borrow your car" with no intention of paying for it ...and continue to use it as I see fit for as long as I want.

When and If I ever get pulled over, I will politely tell the police I was "Lent" the car.
The owner didn't take any money from me...and even though it is rightfully his, it was lent to me.

I'll post on a live blog from prison how well your theory worked out for me...

Sigh...

So okay, the only reason I'm playing devils advocate here is because some people seem to have this big issue with torrenting and want to see the sites shut down. Virtually all same people are happy lend their media be it CD's or DVD's to friends but yet so no problem with it, despite the fact it breaks the exact same law that they seem to feel so strongly about.

So lets say Bob buys himself a nice new CD dividing his hard earned £10 into revenue for the artist, the record label and the store. He rips that bad boy on to his computer and makes a torrent for all to download. Lending it to his internet friends if you will. Oh dear, what a terrible person Bob is, all those people downloading those music tracks aren't allowing the artist, the record label and the store to make the money they so deserve. Shame on Bob!

So lets say Bob buys himself a nice new CD dividing his hard earned £10 into revenue for the artist, the record label and the store. He lends that bad boy to each of his friends. Oh wow, what a nice person Bob is... Oh wait? All those friends borrowing those music tracks aren't allowing the artist, the record label and the store to make the money they so deserve. Shame on Bob!

I mean, it's same thing. Granted to torrent is on a larger scale but, at the end of the day the same people aren't making the money. I just have a real gripe with the double standards surrounding the whole thing.

So whilst you can ask, who am I to decide if it's stealing or not? Who are these other people who can decide what's stealing or not? because, morally, they feel fine about it.
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28 Oct 2010   #67
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MattRainier View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidSnak View Post
Yeah, it's just that the torrent was always faster for me. A LOT faster.
In theory it SHOULD be since you are getting bits of the file from the entire planet not just one site so you aren't constrained by the bandwidth of the single site.

The idea of torrents is actually very good -- these could and should be used much more often provided security aspects can be managed.

Remember the total CHAOS and server overload when the first OFFICIAL copies of W7 were released.

Had MS enabled Torrents to do the download this would probably have prevented two or three days of total Microsoft embarassement at their lack of foresight in upgrading their servers for what they knew would be a MASSIVE world wide demand.

Security is of course the issue but the technology remains perfectly valid and is an excellent way of managing large down (or up) loads of popular material.

Cheers
jimbo
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28 Oct 2010   #68
LiquidSnak

W7 Professional x64
 
 

I thoroughly approve of torrent when used properly, but limewire was NOT a torrent site, but a P2P client made specifically for breaking the law, and became a cesspool of filth and malware within a few months. In it's later years, you could not search something without a bot responding with your exact search terms being the first 'result' whenever searched. In fact, I am hosting Ubuntu 10.10 through torrent right now, as well as some other open source items and freeware that is common.
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28 Oct 2010   #69
lorddenis

 

this music companies and movies companies shuld target those who download and sell their music .


and all i hear is music,movies sofware piracy... no one is mentioning tv shows why is that ?
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28 Oct 2010   #70
Bootz

Vista Business x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MattRainier View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidSnak View Post
Yeah, it's just that the torrent was always faster for me. A LOT faster.
In theory it SHOULD be since you are getting bits of the file from the entire planet not just one site so you aren't constrained by the bandwidth of the single site.

The idea of torrents is actually very good -- these could and should be used much more often provided security aspects can be managed.

Remember the total CHAOS and server overload when the first OFFICIAL copies of W7 were released.

Had MS enabled Torrents to do the download this would probably have prevented two or three days of total Microsoft embarassement at their lack of foresight in upgrading their servers for what they knew would be a MASSIVE world wide demand.

Security is of course the issue but the technology remains perfectly valid and is an excellent way of managing large down (or up) loads of popular material.

Cheers
jimbo
Some Online games are starting to do there updates via p2p. I just started playing FFXIV and its updated by this method, seems to work very well.
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