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Windows 7: Limewire Shut Down

28 Oct 2010   #71
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself View Post

So lets say Bob buys himself a nice new CD dividing his hard earned 10 into revenue for the artist, the record label and the store. He rips that bad boy on to his computer and makes a torrent for all to download. Lending it to his internet friends if you will. Oh dear, what a terrible person Bob is, all those people downloading those music tracks aren't allowing the artist, the record label and the store to make the money they so deserve. Shame on Bob!
Whether it is music or software, piracy or "sharing" results in higher prices to each of us.

Let's take a look at the definition of torrent:

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BitTorrent is a file distribution system used for transferring files across a network of people. As you download a file, BitTorrent places what you download on upload for other users; when multiple people are downloading the same file at the same time they upload pieces of the file to each other. BitTorrent pieces together the file you are downloading, to where the first part of a file you get may be the last part someone else gets. As you continue to retrieve the file, BitTorrent also uploads data to other users. For example, a person with 98 percent of the file done is directed to the people with the 2 percent of the file they still need. {Bold added}
Now take a look at what can happen to the pieces of the file that others are uploading in the attached image I annotated from Webopedia.




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28 Oct 2010   #72
lorddenis

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corrine View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself View Post

So lets say Bob buys himself a nice new CD dividing his hard earned 10 into revenue for the artist, the record label and the store. He rips that bad boy on to his computer and makes a torrent for all to download. Lending it to his internet friends if you will. Oh dear, what a terrible person Bob is, all those people downloading those music tracks aren't allowing the artist, the record label and the store to make the money they so deserve. Shame on Bob!
Whether it is music or software, piracy or "sharing" results in higher prices to each of us.

Let's take a look at the definition of torrent:

Quote:
BitTorrent is a file distribution system used for transferring files across a network of people. As you download a file, BitTorrent places what you download on upload for other users; when multiple people are downloading the same file at the same time they upload pieces of the file to each other. BitTorrent pieces together the file you are downloading, to where the first part of a file you get may be the last part someone else gets. As you continue to retrieve the file, BitTorrent also uploads data to other users. For example, a person with 98 percent of the file done is directed to the people with the 2 percent of the file they still need. {Bold added}
Now take a look at what can happen to the pieces of the file that others are uploading in the attached image I annotated from Webopedia.
you realy think that cd,dvd,games would be cheaper if there wouldnt be piratecy ?
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28 Oct 2010   #73
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

The good news is this had a profound effect in many artist finding vinyl again ! Analog rocks and solves this problem in some respects and re-introduces great non compressed music to a new generation which seem to be embracing it again !......It's all good.....but Limewire Bad. Good Riddance !
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28 Oct 2010   #74
LiquidSnak

W7 Professional x64
 
 

I <3 my huge vinyl collection.
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28 Oct 2010   #75
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Sweet !
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28 Oct 2010   #76
OneSerious

MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corrine View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself View Post

So lets say Bob buys himself a nice new CD dividing his hard earned 10 into revenue for the artist, the record label and the store. He rips that bad boy on to his computer and makes a torrent for all to download. Lending it to his internet friends if you will. Oh dear, what a terrible person Bob is, all those people downloading those music tracks aren't allowing the artist, the record label and the store to make the money they so deserve. Shame on Bob!
Whether it is music or software, piracy or "sharing" results in higher prices to each of us.

Let's take a look at the definition of torrent:

Quote:
BitTorrent is a file distribution system used for transferring files across a network of people. As you download a file, BitTorrent places what you download on upload for other users; when multiple people are downloading the same file at the same time they upload pieces of the file to each other. BitTorrent pieces together the file you are downloading, to where the first part of a file you get may be the last part someone else gets. As you continue to retrieve the file, BitTorrent also uploads data to other users. For example, a person with 98 percent of the file done is directed to the people with the 2 percent of the file they still need. {Bold added}
Now take a look at what can happen to the pieces of the file that others are uploading in the attached image I annotated from Webopedia.
That's grand and all. I am aware of the all the nasties that can occur, which if you are wise can be avoided. However, my point was to draw parallels to file sharing and lending and the double standards of people who condemn one but actively partake in the other. All the while telling me that the file sharing is wrong and that folks can't pick the parts of the rule that suites them whilst they do the very same.

And lets be honest about the pricing. It wouldn't change if all the piracy on earth cleaned up.
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28 Oct 2010   #77
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself View Post
However, my point was to draw parallels to file sharing and lending and the double standards of people who condemn one but actively partake in the other. All the while telling me that the file sharing is wrong and that folks can't pick the parts of the rule that suites them whilst they do the very same.
Point taken. It is rather like the parental caution, "Do as I say, not as I do."

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And lets be honest about the pricing. It wouldn't change if all the piracy on earth cleaned up.
In this context, piracy is merely another word for stealing. Although thievery is as old as recorded events, it is, nonetheless, a crime and does indeed impact the cost of doing business and is passed on to the customer.
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28 Oct 2010   #78
SledgeDG

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
I do not know how this particular problem can be solved without such draconian measures as to seriously damage the usability of the internet, due to the need to check every packet transmitted for content
Not gonna happen. besides the lag that would caused to the whole Inet and the machine power you'd need.
On what base do you think one could decide which packet is legally transmitted and which one is not.

Hell...how would you even decide what that stream of 0's and 1's belongs to in the first place (I mean that in terms of what program/movie/song/game is illegally transmitted here)
I simply believe that is nothing, you could supervise/solve on a packet level.
At max you could document and once you have the whole transmission, decide if it's to be flagged as illegal or discarded

If you start monitoring a certain port range, tomorrow all p2p clients switch their settings.

Nah...if there was a practical way the content industry would have found it by now

-DG
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28 Oct 2010   #79
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

One point I would like to make on the difference between file sharing and file loaning

When somebody shares or sells on a physical item to someone else the physical medium is no longer available to the original owner, this applies to CD, DVD, vinyl Cassette Tape, books anything - there is only one copy.This has always occurred and is acceptable to the content producers, and the general public
You do not see Ford or GM complaining that the second hand car market is depriving them of business (well not much anyway )

This is not the case with p2p sharing where the original is duplicated and the copies shared
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28 Oct 2010   #80
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

[QUOTE=Barman58;1041915]One point I would like to make on the difference between file sharing and file loaning

When somebody shares or sells on a physical item to someone else the physical medium is no longer available to the original owner, this applies to CD, DVD, vinyl Cassette Tape, books anything - there is only one copy.This has always occurred and is acceptable to the content producers, and the general public
You do not see Ford or GM complaining that the second hand car market is depriving them of business (well not much anyway )
This is not the case with p2p sharing where the original is duplicated and the copies shared[/QUOTE

That is one hell of a point people have been cutting corners for years almost like the fast food wars think you closed one down another grease killer open I guess to point out people do what they have to survive even if it does land them in jail thats why alot of these cold criminals could care less about what me or anyone else is saying thats thiere bread and butter and either way there going to get it done somehow limewire isnt the first or the last to be shut down

this is one of the main reasons napster went legit i would say a decade ago napster was facing the same savage demise till they changed thiere ways now everyone is completly happy buying music from them especially ipod users
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