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Windows 7: Windows 7 to be shipped in Europe sans IE

12 Jul 2009   #171
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

People need something to squak about for the most part. I guess you have to consider human nature to some degree as being a part of it.

I have to wonder now what the EU reaction will be to the new Google Chrome OS since that itself is a strictly web based OS unlike the rest where you can install programs locally on your system. With that everything is remote access. So you know that will come with "it's own" browser built into it!

(EU reaction is typical I thinkest?! )


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12 Jul 2009   #172
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
People need something to squak about for the most part. I guess you have to consider human nature to some degree as being a part of it.

I have to wonder now what the EU reaction will be to the new Google Chrome OS since that itself is a strictly web based OS unlike the rest where you can install programs locally on your system. With that everything is remote access. So you know that will come with "it's own" browser built into it!

(EU reaction is typical I thinkest?! )
it'll be open source Google says, the EU promotes open source as much as possible. And if they don't charge for it they're not within the jurisdiction of the competition committee so they can't do much.

Giving away stuff for free is at the moment allowed.
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12 Jul 2009   #173
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by petrossa View Post

Giving away stuff for free is at the moment allowed.
Just not if you're Microsoft and want to include your free browser in your OS
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12 Jul 2009   #174
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Nice try

the OS gets sold, you get the browser with the OS as part of the OS. In fact you didn't have choice in the matter which started this off.
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12 Jul 2009   #175
johnwillyums

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Just read through this thread.
I must be naive. I thought everyone regarded M$ and other multinational corporations as anti-competitive and out to squash the little guy, dictate prices to the consumer, etc.
As someone once said this is the unacceptable face of capitalism and offends both those on the left and on the right.
So from my point of view the EU is correct on this.

However, I live in the UK and am also concerned as to how it will affect me and also affect the takeoff of W7 in the EU.
I am capable of downloading my browser of choice to a USB stick but I would think the majority of pc users are not.
I can't really see some kind of multichoice screen as there would always be some little known browser that gets left off and complains.

So what are the practicalities of this and will we have to wait for our E version?

Cheers,J
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12 Jul 2009   #176
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hello John,

As far as I am aware the E version of Windows 7, which meets the terms of the EU dictate to not include the IE browser, will ship on time, to the EU area

The only problem Microsoft have is that the upgrade process will not work correctly so they will be shipping the full version for the price of an update until this is solved - I believe until the end of 2009.

This is of course subject to change
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12 Jul 2009   #177
johnwillyums

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Thanks Barman

So we don't do to badly as we'll get a full version.
I was going to do a clean install anyway.

Cheers, John
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12 Jul 2009   #178
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hi john

I think that we can say we do a bit better value for money wise that we would have done.

Still can't accept this ....

normal exchange rate is 1 = about $1.6

Software exchange rate = 1 = $1
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12 Jul 2009   #179
johnwillyums

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Agreed. The exchange rate has always been 1:1 even when the dollar was really weak against the pound and prices based on the dollar should have made things really cheap for us.
I can recall well off friends going on weekend shopping trips to the States and coming back laden with electrical goods and camera lenses etc. not too long ago.

I'm still curious as to how we will get online. As I say I can put FF on a stick but a lot of people won't know how to do that.

Oh well, we'll see I suppose, J
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12 Jul 2009   #180
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

I don't know. My sources tell me that the EU isn't going to accept Win7 E as a solution which frees them from sanctions.

Sure they can ship it, it's a free world.

Just if they do, and don't implement the resolution which will be the result
of the ongoing talks between the parties they WILL be severely sanctioned.

It's then up to MS to take the risk of a lengthy court battle which they are not sure to win. And if they lose WILL be fined to the limit of the EU committee's possibilities.

If MS starts out on this road, and it takes 7 years and they loose that means 7 years worth of fines. It's generally assumed the EU will impose the 10% maximum.

A lot of lawyers already spat out their morsel, but what is sure if to the court it's clear that Win7E is the same subterfuge as VistaN they will see that as ill will and removing ie is then not seen as compliance with the EU directive.

But everybody has the right to buy Win7E ofcourse. I wouldn't as there channels enough to get the full package.
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