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Windows 7: Intel and AMD sign death warrant for VGA port

21 Dec 2010   #41
xarden

Windows 7 Enterprise
 
 

Our dyno place has a PC that uses 2 serial ports (Yea, the rs232 kind) and a vga video card. The purpose of that computer is to only ever read, display and print the dyno readouts. Nothing else. Convince them why they should upgrade.

Add that to your examples list, Toughbook.


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21 Dec 2010   #42
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

chev65- If you are using HDMI at its mandated 720 or 1080 lines of resolution on a monitor with a matching screen resolution then it looks absolutely great! My ATI graphics card has the ability to resize from 768 to 720 lines, but the picture looks like it has fine cracks in it like an old oil painting.

The reason I am currently using VGA converted from the DVI port is because there are no set restrictions like HDMI has and the graphics card is allowed to send exact 768 line resolution graphics to the monitor which on my Bravia looks indistinguishable from the Cinema 30 DVI monitor in the other computer lab although 40-50 MB PSD format photos do look somewhat better on the Apple Cinema 30, but there is no descernable difference with .jpeg photos.

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22 Dec 2010   #43
chrysalis

windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

I assume DVI is also going, to me sounds like they want to lock in copy protection which is what HDMI offers.
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22 Dec 2010   #44
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Forcing HDMI use across the board also creates a nightmare in the Win 7 audio stack if people don't have HDMI compliant amplification because neither the SPDIF nor analog audio that older audio gear uses can be listened to simultaneously with HDMI audio like they can be with DVI or VGA which have no accompanying audio content.

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24 Dec 2010   #45
xarden

Windows 7 Enterprise
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
Forcing HDMI use across the board also creates a nightmare in the Win 7 audio stack if people don't have HDMI compliant amplification because neither the SPDIF nor analog audio that older audio gear uses can be listened to simultaneously with HDMI audio like they can be with DVI or VGA which have no accompanying audio content.

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Yes actually... I used to have my ladyfriend's hdmi TV as a monitor and could not use spdif at the same time. I had to then use a toslink from the tv to my amp just to get sound. And there was noticeable latency that way. I resorted back to dvi, and I couldnt tell the difference with video quality between the two.
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24 Dec 2010   #46
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

xarden- Concerning Optical Toslink I recently got a new $35.05 65 strand Glass Conductor Optical Digital Toslink to connect my Sony Receiver to my computer's sound card and it sounds ever so much better than the $80 molded plastic conductor Toslink that I used in the past.

~Maxx~
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24 Dec 2010   #47
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maxxwire View Post
chev65- If you are using HDMI at its mandated 720 or 1080 lines of resolution on a monitor with a matching screen resolution then it looks absolutely great! My ATI graphics card has the ability to resize from 768 to 720 lines, but the picture looks like it has fine cracks in it like an old oil painting.

The reason I am currently using VGA converted from the DVI port is because there are no set restrictions like HDMI has and the graphics card is allowed to send exact 768 line resolution graphics to the monitor which on my Bravia looks indistinguishable from the Cinema 30 DVI monitor in the other computer lab although 40-50 MB PSD format photos do look somewhat better on the Apple Cinema 30, but there is no descernable difference with .jpeg photos.

~Maxx~
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For me the DVI to VGA gave me all the resolution options so I could resize it to fit the screen but the image quality was grainy compared to the HDMI. The native resolution on my bravia is 1024x768.
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24 Dec 2010   #48
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Sometimes there's just no explaining these differences. The Chinese have a saying...



Different is just Different.

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24 Dec 2010   #49
Johnathan Lyman

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

<rant>

It's about time. I'd hate to see DVI go but VGA's end of life is also 4 years from now. You all can't seriously say that people who have all this equipment that relies on VGA will still have it in 4 years with the way technology changes so much?

And I can't remember who it was that mentioned the dymo that has rs232 but to you I say that the technology world has its own darwinism/natural selection. If you fall behind, you fall off and there's no getting back on.

Personally, I couldn't care less. at $110, 97% of all new LCD monitors I've seen have DVI, even my low-end HP S2031 that i spent $85 for on sale. IF DVI goes, too, oh well. It's nothing new either. I'm not going to worry about having an HDMI or DP monitor in five years. If I upgrade my mobo/video card and my only option is DP or HDMI, then I worry about it then.

*sigh* Eventually old stuff has to be cut off. I can imagine that when floppies shrunk or were eradicated as well, people moaned and b*tched about that, too.

</rant>
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25 Dec 2010   #50
thefabe

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
 
 

I didn't read every post but we're talking 4 years from now. At the rate things are going now who knows where things will be then.
Seems like a natural progression to me.
Fabe
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