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Windows 7: The Cloud again -- Beware of the Hidden (and not so hidden) Costs

16 Dec 2010   #11
wilywombat

win7
 
 

Fair points jimbo, how much could you trust cloud computing with your banking details or if you wanted to write personal details in a letter to someone? How often would the cloud program "autobackup" the document you are writing? where will it autobackup to? the cloud of course!! And, as we all know, we can trust them to completely remove all the autobackups once we have finished writing!!....can't we??????.......


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16 Dec 2010   #12
Brian6121990

Mac OS X Yosemite
 
 

Clouds...sometimes it rains and sometimes it has got to bring our the suneshine.
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16 Dec 2010   #13
HerrKaLeun

W7 Pro 64
 
 

I think leasing/renting software only would be worthwhile for occasional users of expensive software.
An OS cost $ 70 or so and I can use it for 5 years and use it every day. What woudlb e an attractive leasing rate? $ 1 per month? One has to be pretty poor to not be able to pay that OS at once. There would be more overhead with leasing such small cost.

Teh situation would be different with expensive software (Autodesk Revit for $ 7,000 + $ 700 annual subscription). If I use it full time I can pay for it. But if I'm only a side-job engineer, I only use it 100 hours a year and leasing would make sense.

It would be interesting to see hwo they track time of usage. Here at work I have my CAD files open all day, but on some days I only get to do actual design for an hour, or not at all (this is my lunch right now, in case you are wondering if being on forums causes me to do so little design work :-). I'd hope my employer doesn't need to pay CAD rental for 10 hours if I just open the program.

Again, since an OS is used all the time, leasing wouldn't make sense.
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16 Dec 2010   #14
indianacarnie

 

I think it's kinda scary myself. For business ..... maybe (with major reservations). For the rest of us..... scary. The people pushing this are not in it to be altruist's you can bet. No..... just another way to cash in at the average persons expense. Security/Privacy issues aside all i see is a big money grab coming out of this.

You go wileywombat!
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16 Dec 2010   #15
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

I'm sure Identity Theft victims are very eager to trust all their data to the "Cloud"

This is just plain silly - we all know that data no matter what the form is in danger of compromise, so why entrust it to people/places/and things we cannot even ensure is relatively secure.

I know I try my best to secure my data on my machine, if I compromise it - that is my fault.

We all seem to share the same suspicion that this is a scheme to make more money: increased internet charges, server charges, OS/software usage charges, and I'm sure other unknowns will be tacked on for good measure.

And how will liability be handled? If they make everyone use the Cloud (ie: all programs that are of value are converted to web-based only) - then it is their service and those who are providing this service who will or at least should be held liable for any corruption/compromise/blockage of data.

Oh - that's what Cloud Insurance is for, who wants some? I'll be a certified agent when the time comes!

To the Cloud!
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16 Dec 2010   #16
Fayla

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

The cloud will be the dream 'honey pot' for hackers to target and a great financial spin off system for all the companies involved as you just pointed out

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mr pc View Post
I'm sure Identity Theft victims are very eager to trust all their data to the "Cloud"

This is just plain silly - we all know that data no matter what the form is in danger of compromise, so why entrust it to people/places/and things we cannot even ensure is relatively secure.

I know I try my best to secure my data on my machine, if I compromise it - that is my fault.

We all seem to share the same suspicion that this is a scheme to make more money: increased internet charges, server charges, OS/software usage charges, and I'm sure other unknowns will be tacked on for good measure.

And how will liability be handled? If they make everyone use the Cloud (ie: all programs that are of value are converted to web-based only) - then it is their service and those who are providing this service who will or at least should be held liable for any corruption/compromise/blockage of data.

Oh - that's what Cloud Insurance is for, who wants some? I'll be a certified agent when the time comes!

To the Cloud!
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16 Dec 2010   #17
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

From:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/e...whats-new.aspx
I opened control panel and discovered this program installed, somehow.
I don't want cloud, and its all i can do to keep it out of my system lol. I notice a huge push for 'cloud' ever since Windows photo and movie maker weren't included in Win7, or rather the beginning of a huge push
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16 Dec 2010   #18
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Piracy is one thing, being able to access your data from anywhere is another thing, having an IT staff that can manage the stuff and keep it working for your business is another thing, there are lots of reasons for the cloud environment.

This forum site is like my knowledgebase software, and it's run in the cloud. I don't mind my personal posts and data being presented here.
Your personal Posts and data being presented here are in the open.
Are you going to post your financial records out here? No.

For some Corporation, an internal Cloud is fine.
But they are not talking about corporations only.
The commercials on TV are not there just for the small and medium business people.
They know they are going to attract the individual also.

What the individual's do not see, is the bigger picture.
Some, a lot of them think, "Oh, I'm cool, I use the Cloud." , "I'm like a Vapor Mist and my family all have access to what I put out there, all my pictures, and everything."

You know, that is ok, to an extent, and if you want to.

Just wait. I can not wait for it to all come crashing down.

This is where things are heading. Things will be forced in this direction.
Thankfully, Linux does exist.

Trust me when I say, this is going to go down as hard as AOL did in it's final days.
Unfortunately, it will not be as quick I do not think. Not till the real word gets out there. Which I am spreading.

Beware the Cloud. It's not a slice of heaven you want anything to do with.
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17 Dec 2010   #19
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post

Some, a lot of them think, "Oh, I'm cool, I use the Cloud." , "I'm like a Vapor Mist and my family all have access to what I put out there, all my pictures, and everything."

You know, that is ok, to an extent, and if you want to.
What I find funny is - the demographic the MS "Cloud" commercials are selling to have no idea what Absolute Cloud Computing is. What I find even more odd is that MS is pushing their "Cloud" campaign more than Google who is strictly developing a Cloud OS.

Why are they equating long used social networking outlets (photo sharing, video, etc.) as The Cloud? This is the easing in part. Like you said people will think they are already part of the Cloud and will eventually be glad to sacrifice substantially more delicate aspects of their computing as time goes on.

In a way that's how it's working now with Privacy/financial information right?
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17 Dec 2010   #20
zEric7x

Windows Home premium 64bit
 
 

But what if you cant get online? What then? I rather install things on my own computer.
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