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Windows 7: Your tech career depends on preparing for the cloud

03 Jan 2011   #21
ionbasa

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all
Corporate Greed will rear its ugly head again here.

First Genuine Cloud computing will require NO BANDWIDTH LIMIT -- however it seems more and more ISP's are beginning to cap babdwidth -- seems the days of unlimited bandwidth are coming to an end.

Secondly -- since the servers can be located ANYWHERE (including Planet Mars if you like) it's a SURE THING that even more of the I.T industry will be offshored to cheaper countries like India, the Phillipines etc etc (regardless of the quality of Customer Service) decimating even more of an industry that has seen literally hundresds of thousands of jobs in the West disappear in the last few years.

Any youngsters reading this -- by all means stay interested in I.T but if you want to make good money and also be in a position where your job is 100% safe and CAN'T be off shored -- take up Plumbing or Gas fitting instead.

Cheers

jimbo
unless you decide to work for a company like NCIX, Fry's Electronic, and quite possibly EVGA. Those companies generally 99% of the time stick to their mainland.


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03 Jan 2011   #22
thefabe

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
 
 

I'm just going to say thanks t o JHM for posting another great article.
This one seems to have a lot of opinions and sparks the mind to think and express their opinions.

Only time will tell where we're headed with this I think Windows Eight will be a good starting place to see if this is actually the direction people want.

It has interested me enough to do some reading on it. But I will say it has a real negative connotations when you consider how Big Brother can get involved.
Fabe
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03 Jan 2011   #23
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

One thing that hasn't been brought up and is beyond the IT dynamic of "Cloud" computing is personal OS modification.

Would these OS "proprietors" limit personal OS mods? Would they be able to tag such changes as copyright violations? Or Would they find another profitable option in charging for changes (ie: Apps) for personalization.

I pray nobody who may have that control and is working in the "Cloud" conversion is reading this.

The "Cloud" is going to clog growth in personal computing.
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03 Jan 2011   #24
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Hey, why not, this seems like an improvement, it requires a little polish. Which new advancement doesn't?

Security will never be fullproof but they can improve on it. Also, I bet you still have trouble giving up your old Super Nintendo.
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03 Jan 2011   #25
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

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Actually when you think about it what would be bad if only the OS was on the cloud, but ALL DATA was stored local and unreachable to the cloud?
I'm honestly not sure what the point of that would be. First of all, the local data would have to be reachable from the cloud, else it wouldn't really be an OS at all. Second, why would you want the OS on the cloud at all? With all your data stored locally, what would be the purpose of having to access the Internet to get into the OS? What could the OS possibly do that it can't do just fine the way it is now?
Well that means that if you customized your OS you could access it at any computer connected to the Internet, but you could not access the data. I think I made a somwhat stupid coment because I just realized why that would be useless, but what if corporations managed their own "private" cloud for use only on their network?
I think they can already do that, but they call it a "mainframe".

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all
Corporate Greed will rear its ugly head again here.

First Genuine Cloud computing will require NO BANDWIDTH LIMIT -- however it seems more and more ISP's are beginning to cap bandwidth -- seems the days of unlimited bandwidth are coming to an end. This will cost consumetrs a lot more.

Secondly -- since the servers can be located ANYWHERE (including Planet Mars if you like) it's a SURE THING that even more of the I.T industry will be offshored to cheaper countries like India, the Phillipines etc etc (regardless of the quality of Customer Service) decimating even more of an industry that has seen literally hundresds of thousands of jobs in the West disappear in the last few years.

Any youngsters reading this -- by all means stay interested in I.T but if you want to make good money and also be in a position where your job is 100% safe and CAN'T be off shored -- take up Plumbing or Gas fitting instead.

Cheers

jimbo
"Corporate Greed"? How about "Corporate Survival"? Surely you must realize that corporations don't run on 100% profit margins. Corporations exist for the purpose of making money, and yeah, they're going to adapt their business so that continues to be possible, regardless of any external factors. This is why doing anything on a national or industry scale that intentionally makes it more expensive and/or more difficult to do business in that nation/industry is a BAD idea. It gives the corporations two choices: 1) shift costs onto the entities (incl. consumers) that they do business with, or 2) begin losing money and eventually going out of business. Just how many jobs you think we'll lose then?!

And for the record. Unlimited bandwidth is impossible to provide nowadays because of the sheer number of Internet users and their various devices. The rise of multi-gigabyte game and video downloads also helped speed the death of unlimited bandwidth. In short, unlimited bandwidth is gone because it no longer exists. Even the ISPs that still claim to offer unlimited (none that I am aware of), try downloading 400GB/wk off of their connection, and you'll be surprised at just how limited your bandwidth is!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mr pc View Post
One thing that hasn't been brought up and is beyond the IT dynamic of "Cloud" computing is personal OS modification.

Would these OS "proprietors" limit personal OS mods? Would they be able to tag such changes as copyright violations? Or Would they find another profitable option in charging for changes (ie: Apps) for personalization.

I pray nobody who may have that control and is working in the "Cloud" conversion is reading this.

The "Cloud" is going to clog growth in personal computing.
Yeah, I can definitely see major companies using the "cloud" as an excuse to close their platforms as Apple has done with iOS (and that's not even cloud-based yet!).
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03 Jan 2011   #26
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

OP Article in one word....

Propaganda


Get enough people thinking that is what they need to do and you can make it a reality.
Don't buy the hype.
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03 Jan 2011   #27
Skulblaka

Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
OP Article in one word....

Propaganda


Get enough people thinking that is what they need to do and you can make it a reality.
Don't buy the hype.
But we shouldn't completely ignore it.
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03 Jan 2011   #28
Turismon

Windows 7
 
 

The costs don't save anything. I agree with that word. All the CEO's and CIO's get fed this bs about how it is so great and saves money, but they don't have the slightest clue to what is really involved in the process.All it is for is people pushing it to make more money and take it away from hardware vendors etc and what not and then fill CIO's etc heads full of rubbish to make you waste the money putting stuff on the cloud. In the end it will end up costing more and be reverted back.

For some companies the Cloud could make sense for some things, but not for others.

I'm just sick of the "Cloud" term. It's so retarted, when it should just still be called "Hosted" services. But whatever.
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04 Jan 2011   #29
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Turismon View Post

I'm just sick of the "Cloud" term. It's so retarded, when it should just still be called "Hosted" services. But whatever.


Cloud is accessible to the masses - even if they they have no idea what it means.

It fosters an easier acceptance through 'pleasant' connotations.



"Hosted" services means even less to the masses and merely fosters confusion.


Smiley dog vs Bitey dog. As a non-dog person, which would you want to pat?
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04 Jan 2011   #30
Turismon

Windows 7
 
 

Yeah I kind of agree, but they know that hosted services cost alot and usually aren't worth it. But to them cloud is some new cheap magic button. It's just overblown propaganda. Oh we can just put it on the cloud.... lol makes me spit up a little every time.
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