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Windows 7: Your tech career depends on preparing for the cloud

10 Jan 2011   #81
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
Chrome is probably an operating system loaded on some Google Server/s. So from a maintenance perspective some Google employees will have to monitor and maintain it and the software running on it.

From a users perspective Chrome is comparable a folder on your Windows desktop with shortcuts to your applications.

It is similar to the setup in large corporations where the software applications are located on some company server/s and the employees only have access to the applications and nothing else.

The difference between the Google/Chrome setup and the corporation setup in this case is that Google/Chrome is running in the cloud whereas the corporations software is running on one or more corporation server.

One other thing. I would think that Google/Chrome is optimized by design to run in the cloud whereas I don't believe that W7 is.

That at least is how I see it.
I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that Chrome OS itself does have to be installed on the client computer. But yes, all applications are accessed on the web ("the cloud").


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10 Jan 2011   #82
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Here is the real question in regards to the Cloud.

Which do you really prefer?

Do you want to have control over your system and info?

Or some part of Gov't or large Organization or Company and not really you?
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10 Jan 2011   #83
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

That is the only question.
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10 Jan 2011   #84
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Here is the real question in regards to the Cloud.

Which do you really prefer?

Do you want to have control over your system and info?

Or some part of Gov't or large Organization or Company and not really you?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mr pc View Post
That is the only question.
Correct. I personally am insistent about control over my personal information, whether it be computer data, medical records, or anything else.
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11 Jan 2011   #85
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mr pc View Post
That is the only question.
Hi there
I think you've also forgotten the cost -- you'll have to pay per application and for the bandwidth you use.

If I have an EXCEL spreadsheet with say 2 million calculations - all it costs on a home computer is TIME. It won't cost me money to run the spreadsheet. On the Cloud IT WILL - BIG TIME.

In the Cloud you'll pay for Connection / Bandwidth and a whole host of other not necessarily related computer issues -- for example I could be a shareholder in the company -- I want my shares and eventual Pension to go UP so YOU pay while you are connected.

Cheers
jimbo
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11 Jan 2011   #86
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mr pc View Post
That is the only question.
Hi there
I think you've also forgotten the cost -- you'll have to pay per application and for the bandwidth you use.

If I have an EXCEL spreadsheet with say 2 million calculations - all it costs on a home computer is TIME. It won't cost me money to run the spreadsheet. On the Cloud IT WILL - BIG TIME.

In the Cloud you'll pay for Connection / Bandwidth and a whole host of other not necessarily related computer issues -- for example I could be a shareholder in the company -- I want my shares and eventual Pension to go UP so YOU pay while you are connected.

Cheers
jimbo
By "that is the only question," I'm pretty sure he means it's the only one of significance. After all, I can't imagine that too many people are going to be OK with no privacy, but not OK with the cost.
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11 Jan 2011   #87
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

For those who think Linux will be an alternative to the "Cloud"

Cloud | Ubuntu

I would say that Linux had been the most "Cloud"-like of the OS's prior to the onset of app-puting with mobiles and tablets and soon OS X/Win8

The only reason why Linux may not become a major "Cloud" competitor commercially is not the concept but rather the cost - Linux is built upon affordability and accessibility.

The Cloud professional options at the bottom of the page are quite interesting though, considering the term is barely even mentioned with more prominent certification programs.
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11 Jan 2011   #88
Buddahfan

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ionbasa View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
Chrome is probably an operating system loaded on some Google Server/s. So from a maintenance perspective some Google employees will have to monitor and maintain it and the software running on it.

From a users perspective Chrome is comparable a folder on your Windows desktop with shortcuts to your applications.

It is similar to the setup in large corporations where the software applications are located on some company server/s and the employees only have access to the applications and nothing else.

The difference between the Google/Chrome setup and the corporation setup in this case is that Google/Chrome is running in the cloud whereas the corporations software is running on one or more corporation server.

One other thing. I would think that Google/Chrome is optimized by design to run in the cloud whereas I don't believe that W7 is.

That at least is how I see it.
yes, but windows 7 and vista both have i-scsi which can easily be used to provide cloud storage.
However with the new FCC regulations and the Feds now controlling the Net the Feds could shut down the Internet or part of it and that could include your cloud connection.

If the data is stored locally and your network is running over a LAN or WLAN than users can still retrieve their applications and data and continue to work whereas with cloud they could be shut down along with the Internet.
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11 Jan 2011   #89
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

Yeah it seems proposed govt regulation is in stark contrast of potential development -

Rather than possibly being denied access to the ideas of others, you are denied access to your own data. Oh wait - the may very well want to deny you access to your own data.

How come little public argument from the "Cloud" pushers against govt regs that could adversely affect this new form of computing?
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11 Jan 2011   #90
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mr pc View Post
How come little public argument from the "Cloud" pushers against govt regs that could adversely affect this new form of computing?
Because they both want the cloud (for different reasons), and there will be enough exemptions and loopholes written in whatever laws that are to be written, which will immunize those businesses from harm.
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