Someone leaked some 7 Retail Prices?! Real or Fake?

If anything. i could see MS waiting on pricing till the competition (if you can call it that) gets all their affairs in order. probably a mexican stand off, Mac, MS, and i guess the cave troll that brings us Linux are all staring down each others barrels, waiting to see who shoots first.

Making the price so expensive will only make more people choose to use Pirated Copies of Windows 7. Microsoft should seriously put themselves in their customer's shoes. Sigh... If not for the recession, I wouldn't be complaining.

WindowsSe7en said:

I really doubt those are fake. These are the same prices as vista, but then again vista was more expensive at first.

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Try an $80- price drop for the Ultimate which had been $399.95. When Vista's prices were first announced no one could figure out why they were that high to start off with.

Everyone had been used to the $180-$225 price range for XP and previous versions. When asking someone who was one of the first in line about not buying an oem disk instead that's when the mention of seeing the 64bit disk included in with the 32bit! Two for one explained the higher price tag.

In order to get more volume of sales for Vista the prices where dropped there for obvious reasons! 7 on the other hand is the new item to come soon where it is still the official MS page listing prices to watch out for.

WindowsSe7en said:

I really doubt those are fake. These are the same prices as vista, but then again vista was more expensive at first.

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They are.
Check the comment on the article :
Windows 7 Pricing Details (Price for Various Editions) Leaked » My Digital Life

It's from February, and, those prices were already revealed being fake.

I just hope for those kind of prices :

Starter : $99,99
Home Premium : $149,99
Professional : $179,99$
Ultimate : $219,99$
Those would make sense

THE PRICES ABOVE ARE FAKE in case people cannot read posts.

"TechARP.com, a Malaysian Web site that correctly named the ship date of Internet Explorer 8 earlier this year and leaked details of an upcoming free Windows 7 upgrade program for users who buy Vista PCs after July 1, said that Microsoft will publicly announce prices for Windows 7 in mid-June.
Although Microsoft has detailed the Windows 7 versions it will ship later this year, it has not set prices or a launch date for Vista's successor.

A report last week by CNET cited a Dell product director as saying that the average price of Windows 7 would be higher than Vista, but did not go into specifics. "In tough economic times, I think it's naive to believe that you can increase your prices on average and then still see a stronger swell than if you held prices flat or even lowered them," Darrel Ward, director of product management for Dell's business client product group, told CNET. "I can tell you that the licensing tiers at retail are more expensive than they were for Vista."
According to TechARP, Microsoft set Windows 7 pricing for computer makers such as Dell several weeks ago. By now, Microsoft has also informed major retailers of the Windows 7 prices.
One analyst didn't have any idea what Microsoft will charge for Windows 7, but was sure of one thing: Continuing economic problems put a very big monkey wrench in Microsoft's plans. "It's such a strange time that it's hard to even speculate on prices," said Michael Cherry, an analyst with Directions on Microsoft. "Everything has such a different feel to it because of the economic climate."" Report: Microsoft to Reveal Windows 7 Prices in June - CIO.com - Business Technology Leadership

That was from an article dated 5/21. Another one dated for 5/19 pointed out another price indicator.

"Dell warns Windows 7 will raise PC prices"
Microsoft's attempt to increase the prices for Windows 7 could hurt sales of PCs, Dell director of business product management Darren Ward says early this week. Without providing exact numbers, he explains to CNET that the average selling price of the OS will increase from Vista and that it should be particularly higher for Windows 7 Professional, which replaces Windows Vista Business as the mainstream work version. He adds that costs of retail boxed copies should go up but doesn't specifically address the OEM (original equipment manufacturer) prices Dell gets for its own systems.
The increase is enough that Ward is concerned Microsoft may scare away some customers by driving up the prices while customers are still concerned about the costs of their PCs. He sees the price change as sufficiently high that some smaller businesses, governments and schools simply couldn't afford to update.

"In tough economic times, I think it's naive to believe that you can increase your prices on average and then still see a stronger swell than if you held prices flat or even lowered them," Ward says." Electronista | Dell warns Windows 7 will raise PC prices
The best estimate on all this is that MS is being tight lipped while trying to promote more Vista sales with the pricing slash seen back in February. With 7 soon to become the new item on stores shelves the common question has already been asked. "Will Windows 7 really cost more than Vista?" bit-tech.net | Blog - Will Windows 7 really cost more than Vista?

Night Hawk said:

I'm afraid that isn't real world pricing either. 98SE was sold retail for $180- in it's day. An upgrade ran $99.95. And it wouldn't be starter since that isn't even a desktop edition for Vista. You start off with Basic, Home Premium, Professional for 7, and then Ultimate.

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of course the difference was one could buy one copy of 98 and run it on all the pcs in their house so a better value for money so to speak. I know wasnt legal but thats what everyone did.

Microsoft are heavily penalising retail consumers, corp customers pay nowhere near retail prices for their copies, educational customers likewise pay nowhere near, again oem is cheaper.

So what justifies the large difference between corp, edu, oem and retail?

What you don't seem to undertsand on that is it's not the price of the disks and boxes they come in but the type of license for the application. Go out and price a corporate license to the one you pay retail for in an office supply store(They'll tend to carry all editions over places like BestBuy or Walmart).

Volume licenses allow companies and schools to install one edition on 100 machines while the home user who buys the retail disk can install on the new replacement systme once the old one has to go. Oem glues one disk per one machine.

i just hope its cheap...

That's steep..

i wonder how much for the leaked version? LOL!

I tend to believe that 7 will be first seen with Vista's original pricing while MS had slashed Vista's to keep pushing sales on the present version out. You see that with hardwares as well when something new comes out it's up high at first and then starts dropping in price once it's been out for a period of time.

pestbest said:

Making the price so expensive will only make more people choose to use Pirated Copies of Windows 7. Microsoft should seriously put themselves in their customer's shoes. Sigh... If not for the recession, I wouldn't be complaining.

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You are 100% dead on sir.
It's unfortunate that it seems M$ really doesn't care about their customers.
Like, come on? $300+ for Ultimate? mmmm recession....right.:sarc:

If they intend to keep pushing Vista sales they would need to drop the prices there down even further! You have to expect any new version when first out to be higher priced then seen for the previous.

For seeing 7 have lower prices they would have to drop Vista down even further in order to lower the initial pricing for 7. If they plan to sell 7 retail seeing both 32/64bit versions tossed in together then you have to expect what was first seen for Vista. That's why Vista was up there as well.

Too bad you have to buy OEM in order to see just one not both for those who can't run the 64bit and those who no longer will be running the 32bit Windows. The price for the full version Ultimate would then likely see a drop from the $399- Vista saw down to something like $229.95 for one or the other.

here is an example.

uk educational license £4000 for annum, covers installation of vista onto 700 pcs.

£4000 divided by 700 works out at £5.71 per installation, in addition they wont have to pay a penny for windows 7 their contract gives future versions inclusive.

Of course the average consumer has no clue how cheap these bulk licenses are, but they do know the retail is priced too high hence the high levels of piracy.

The other thing to note about the retail and not oem is being able to install Windows on your next build and the one that follows when going to upgrade your hardwares.

MS knows people will still install the same version on the next machine especially if the present goes belly up on you! They are also not worried how many times you end up reinstalling the same version on the same machine.

If you decided to run 7 for the next 10yrs. even if one system lasts that long you've already for the license is how they look at it. You don't think other software companies don't charge high prices as well?

Walk into any office supply store and pay full retail for a dvd burning software or some media player and then find it won't run on the next version of Windows out after you just spent $100- on it! The one thing I'll say about 7 over Vista is certainly seeing more older XP programs actually running on 7.

Let us wait until FRIDAY, when it is suppose to be on the MS site.
as to what the Suggested REtail Prices are.
As you know OEM will be different, and let us wait till then.
If the USA prices are different than UK - cheaper and China CHEAPER then wait and order you copy from the CHEAPEST LEGIT place.

(1) The prices in the original post were determined FALSE and retracted months ago.

(2) Dell may have been griping about whatever they were going to have to pay for their own mass license, and what they expect to have to pass along. They likely wouldn't know the price to buy things individually. They'd be one of the biggest sources of MS income from the OS and MS would likely negotiate a bit aggressively with them.

(3) The recent Best Buy memo indicates likely pre-sale upgrade pricing of $50 for Home Premium and $100 for Professional. Those would be a good sign.

My lips are sealed, but you will all know the truth very soon

Slimy said:

My lips are sealed, but you will all know the truth very soon

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Holding out on us! Very cruel, very very cruel.

No hints?

Windows 7 RTM under $200.00

WOW, here you go. Get both Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate both for $199.98. They offer X64 for the same Price.
I'm sure the offers will get BETTER.

Well 1) is certainly correct as we know from all the hub bub generated by blogs while nothing was and still hasn't been confirmed by MS. Fake or simply inaccurate from pre-estimated guessing by the authors in a rush to fill a blog?

2)Dell can snival all they want since they make all that back right off of the top when the new lineup of models with 7 om them will be seen. You don't have to worry any there since they will manage their own profit margins.

3)The annoucements of BestBuy's own pricing is the decision of their own management to reduce prices in order to draw in business where they make up the difference in the volume of sales generated on new prebuilds as well as other products they carry. Some special discounts are never basec on the actual manufacturers suggested note the word "suggested" or maximum retail pricing. Anything over that is considered "price gauging".

A goog example of why one place sells something for less would be like comparing store A to store B each being their own retail chain. When each has a 100 count of Brand X seeing a $50 price tag over the $33 wholesale store B decides to mark Brand X down to $43 still $10 over cost while store A sells for $48- still under the max.

Who do you think will clear the 100 Brand X items out first as well as see other items purchased by drawing in more business? People will obviously be looking at the $43 price and headed that way first while that sale lasts!

Likewise you have to place the promo for BestBuy into that catagory. The management there knows that 7 will be the new thing people want and what is a better way to increase the volume of sales in a sluggish economy? Give them what they want for less! in order to draw in business into the stores at a time when everyone is counting coins!